God wants to see strong children who know what they know and therefore do not fall prey to future sellers.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]>wrote: > Hey Gabs, > > Wot? Now you have confussed me again. > > What are you talking baout now? > > On Aug 22, 1:52 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > Argh, Lee, you fell for Molly's imagery and forgot to put enough wax into > > your ears! > > > > Do you remember how proud you felt when your younger son apologized for > > being selfish over not wanting to lend the PS3 game to his brother to > take > > it out of the house? Although his saying no in the beginning was probably > > the most sensible reaction considering the experiences he had made and > had > > heard of up to that day? > > > > Seeing Rome burn and asking oneself what does this mean for me and mine > > could have been the incentive to grab the bucket and extinguish the fire! > > Which would have been a very social thing to do at that time! > > > > Another moral: Give your children time to find their own words for > > their/they're meanings of our brandings. > > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Because as a speices we are all rather insulare. We can't help but > > > think and act according to 'how it effects us' as individuals, as > > > small family units. > > > > > Instead of seing Rome burning and asking what does this mean for > > > humanity we see it burn and ask instead, what does this mean for me > > > and mine. > > > > > On Aug 20, 1:51 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Creating order from chaos requires entering into the chaos. We are > > > > often too content to rest in outdated but comfortable social orders. > > > > The balance of individual and consensus reality becomes infinite in > > > > mutual creativity. Finding and maintaining that point in experience > > > > is a real challenge. Once found, old orders fall away, new orders > are > > > > created, the circles of familiarity become smaller and at the same > > > > time eternal as folks capable of sharing the unseen unite in action. > > > > Rome burns, and a new order emerges. Yet all we can see or feel is > > > > Rome burning. Why? > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2:57 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-loo. > > > .. > > > > > > > We had riots in England a couple of weeks ago. Our media was full > of > > > > > people, including reporters, stating this was a new issue and > > > > > unprecedented. I did not believe this as I watched - though I did > see > > > > > a great deal I recognised from GTA games. The above link to the > > > > > Economist makes use of a book by Pearson I read years ago - it > casts a > > > > > very different view that our riots were really only history > repeating > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > I don't believe human thought can 'rid itself' of emotional > response > > > > > (or should). I do believe we can do better than 'knee-jerk > reactions' > > > > > - but I also believe this is quite difficult and beyond many people > > > > > left to their own devices. I believe our democracies are weak at > the > > > > > moment and that this is because we can't argue very well - hence > > > > > politicians appeal to much that is populist and wrong using highly > > > > > dubious techniques. > > > > > > > I'm sure I could identify the protocols that appeal to 'ignorant > > > > > Idols' that lead to situations of 'nopolitics' in our societies and > > > > > thus the rule of the very rich through "economics" in a way far > more > > > > > centralised than any politburo. > > > > > > > I've pretty much given up on democracy. Teaching is very > frustrating > > > > > because you want to encourage self-learning and resourceful human > > > > > beings and also know this is too much for most - democracy is > > > > > similar. The struggle is knowing this and not wanting to be > elitist > > > > > and sneer at others. I succeed a bit in 'adventures with ideas' > but > > > > > the same mistakes in reaction crop up time and time and time again > in > > > > > wider social action. > > > > > > > I wonder if outing the protocols of the dreary positions people > take > > > > > in reaction could help us actually find dialogue?- Hide quoted text > - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -
