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On Sep 13, 12:32 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
> Son I h
> Son I hate to tell this Wiki is not Perfect... it is written by people some
> of which have like you no real idea of what they are talking about like you.
>  Enlightenment  is an experience and unless You experience it you really
> have no idea of what it is. when I say education is a form of enlightenment
> I am speaking of two different forms
>
> You are not enlightened.. so please trying to stop  trying to convince me
> you are.
> Allan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Bavwu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >  " "Perfectio(n)" thus literally means "a finishing" "
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfection
>
> > "Enlightenment in a secular context often means the "full
> > comprehension of a situation",[1] but in spiritual terms the word
> > alludes to a spiritual revelation or deep insight into the meaning and
> > purpose of all things, communication with or understanding of the mind
> > of God, profound spiritual understanding or a fundamentally changed
> > consciousness whereby everything is perceived as a unity."
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightenment_(spiritual)http://en.wikip...)
>
> > Total state of Bavwu - total comprehension of all systems that make up
> > our universe and knowing our purpose of existence and being content
> > with sustaining it.
>
> > Becoming bavwu - trying to comprehend all the components of the
> > universe, and trying to have the will to do what is in it's advantage.
>
> > There will not be one set definition for this idea, there is stages
> > and levels of it.
>
> > On Sep 12, 11:20 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Agree entirely with you, Allan !
>
> > > Bavwu > >  What is Perfection ? What is enlightenment ? And, then back
> > > to, what is Bavwu ?
>
> > > This is the worst aspect of academics and romantics... let's have
> > > something totally new !
>
> > > F23k, I do not want something entirely new at all. I want the ground I
> > > stand on. The lips I can kiss. The people I love. The trees and the
> > > forests, flowers and animals. I definitely do not want something
> > > entirely new, shitheads. I want the same things better, better
> > > behaved, better valued. better harmonious. More happy, more regarded.
>
> > > Allan H wrote:
> > > > Jo  the original concept and definition of perfection is simply put
> > > >  'Complete whole hearted and in balance' in other words You can even
> > have
> > > > something that appears to be malfunctioning but still doing the job it
> > was
> > > > designed to to..  you have a perfect tool.
>
> > > > When you create a word to explain something you do not understand does
> > not
> > > > make you enlightened.  Words are easy to throw around,, then again i
> > > > guess education is one form of enlightenment. In that realm there are
> > some
> > > > very enlightened people in this group.
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Allen, I also searched the word Bavwu and this is what I found:
>
> > > > > "The collection of information regarding sustainability, perfection,
> > > > > and the pursuit of enlightenment."
>
> > > > > "Bavwu is to be a collaborated collection of information presented is
> > > > > such a way that anyone can benefit from it. Bavwu is a state of
> > > > > totally stability and equalization between all components of the
> > given
> > > > > system. This is not your typical idea and it goes further then try
> > and
> > > > > be green. If we wish to transcend a system into a state of Bavwu we
> > > > > must take every aspect of the system into consideration and do what
> > is
> > > > > best for the people's health, environment, and most of all the mental
> > > > > effects it will have on the present and future generations. If
> > > > > something is Bavwu it does not have negative effects and can continue
> > > > > to supply a solution to the initial problem indefinitely."
>
> > > > > This thread is my first introduction to the word so I can't expound
> > on
> > > > > it. It would be nice to know more...
>
> > > > > On Sep 11, 10:07 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > sorry it still has no real meaning  just one you attached to it,
> > which is
> > > > > no
> > > > > > longer there unless you attach the meaning to it as you use it,, it
> > is
> > > > > not a
> > > > > > simplification of the language of it.
>
> > > > > > the problem with creating words   is it is only your definition
> >  and
> > > > > people
> > > > > > change the meaning to fit what they want ending up with muggled
> > > > > conclusion.
> > > > > >  by the way muggle  is a old slang term  as in mugglehead a  person
> > who
> > > > > > smoked to much pot or dope. the word at the time was used to
> > indicate a
> > > > > > fuzzy  confused state of being.
>
> > > > > > Now the word is somewhere around a century old and there are only
> > two
> > > > > times
> > > > > > I use the word  1: when I feel like explain it and its origin   2:
> > when I
> > > > > do
> > > > > > not really want them to know what  I said ( I have a whole series
> > of
> > > > > words
> > > > > > for that (mainly for childish name calling)) and I never explain.
> > The
> > > > > third
> > > > > > reason is to have people think I know and understand more than I
> > really
> > > > > do.
> > > > > > Allan
> > > > > > Besides it is also not really pronounceable
>
> > > > > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Bavwu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Bavwu - The optimal action for highest quality and sustainable
> > > > > > > results.
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 10, 1:54 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I looked the word up and the truth is it has no meaning except
> > that
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > person is trying  to sell a bill of goods..  Trying
> > > > > > > > to communicate is difficult enough adding words that really
> > have no
> > > > > > > meaning
> > > > > > > > or value except to sell a bill of goods the person can not
> > explain
> > > > > > > normally
> > > > > > > > so he creates a word to add confusion.
> > > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:24 AM, archytas <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I guess we barely understand language.  Bavwu was never much
> > use
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > under fire.  The first move needed is to disarm the rich
> > through
> > > > > > > > > actual democracy, as they currently stop and meaningful
> > decisions
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > might bavwu.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 8:59 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I disagree because I know what you mean, Molly. Common
> > language
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > result of agreed communication. Your pointless invitation
> > proves
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > opposite.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Molly <[email protected]
>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > common language is a good start
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 7:19 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Although I largely agree you last sentance highlights
> > the
> > > > > > > problem.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Getting humans to agree is an excersise in fultility,
> > and
> > > > > what I
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'know' to be right may indeed differ from what others
> > 'know'
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > right.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 5:19 am, Bavwu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There is an inevitable trend becoming more and more
> > > > > apparent as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > globalization and technology is connecting us all and
> > we
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > booming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > through the Information Age. Standard and quality of
> > living
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > increasing and we are getting more advanced, but the
> > higher
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > climb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the more obvious it is that we did not start on the
> > proper
> > > > > > > > > foundation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Greed and self interest have molded our world so
> > > > > dramatically
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > idea of Bavwu seems far out.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Living sustainable and advancing without side effect
> > should
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > our minds, it should be the first thought when
> > dealing with
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > problem we face. The bottom line needs to move away
> > from
> > > > > money
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > self profit and to global stability and equal rights.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sustainability shouldn't even be our main goal,
> > > > > sustainability
> > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just be our lifestyle, while living that life we then
> > will
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > means to focus our brain power on more mental needs
> > and
> > > > > begin
> > > > > > > > > forming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a new reality based on intellect and collaboration.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Technology may be what we have been waiting for to
> > make the
> > > > > > > > > transcend
> > > > > > > > > > > > > into our new collective global society. I believe we
> > have
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > technology to connect every person in the world, I
> > also
> > > > > feel we
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > whole, we have all, or could learn all the solutions
> > the
> > > > > people
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > world faces if given the opportunity and the common
> > goal.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If we could define Bavwu in every situation and
> > scenario,
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > need is the will to do what we know is right.
>
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >  (
> > > > > > > >   )
> > > > > > > > |_D Allan
>
> > > > > > > > May the flees of 1000 camels infect the crotch of who ever has
> > ever
> > > > > > > ruined
> > > > > > > > your day and may their arms be to short to scratch. Then you
> > can have
>
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