You may have noticed from the becoming bavwu site that the focus is more on the action we can do now, rather then explain the secrets of the universe, we must keep the big picture in mind so we are ready for it when we can advance towards it, but we are not becoming enlightened today or tomorrow, and if you feel you are truly enlightened I feel sorry for you for missing out on the vast wonders around you.
On Sep 13, 10:05 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > Don't fret about it om I knew I was against posting policy when I wrote it. > actually it is the end of the thread for me.. I think. > Allan > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Allan, your attitude as presented here is against our standards for > > posting. > > Please read > >http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye/web/posting-guidelines > > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > > OM > > Moderator > > > On Sep 13, 12:32 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Son I h > > > Son I hate to tell this Wiki is not Perfect... it is written by people > > some > > > of which have like you no real idea of what they are talking about like > > you. > > > Enlightenment is an experience and unless You experience it you really > > > have no idea of what it is. when I say education is a form of > > enlightenment > > > I am speaking of two different forms > > > > You are not enlightened.. so please trying to stop trying to convince me > > > you are. > > > Allan > > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Bavwu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > " "Perfectio(n)" thus literally means "a finishing" " > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfection > > > > > "Enlightenment in a secular context often means the "full > > > > comprehension of a situation",[1] but in spiritual terms the word > > > > alludes to a spiritual revelation or deep insight into the meaning and > > > > purpose of all things, communication with or understanding of the mind > > > > of God, profound spiritual understanding or a fundamentally changed > > > > consciousness whereby everything is perceived as a unity." > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightenment_(spiritual)http://en.wikip.. > > .) > > > > > Total state of Bavwu - total comprehension of all systems that make up > > > > our universe and knowing our purpose of existence and being content > > > > with sustaining it. > > > > > Becoming bavwu - trying to comprehend all the components of the > > > > universe, and trying to have the will to do what is in it's advantage. > > > > > There will not be one set definition for this idea, there is stages > > > > and levels of it. > > > > > On Sep 12, 11:20 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Agree entirely with you, Allan ! > > > > > > Bavwu > > What is Perfection ? What is enlightenment ? And, then > > back > > > > > to, what is Bavwu ? > > > > > > This is the worst aspect of academics and romantics... let's have > > > > > something totally new ! > > > > > > F23k, I do not want something entirely new at all. I want the ground > > I > > > > > stand on. The lips I can kiss. The people I love. The trees and the > > > > > forests, flowers and animals. I definitely do not want something > > > > > entirely new, shitheads. I want the same things better, better > > > > > behaved, better valued. better harmonious. More happy, more regarded. > > > > > > Allan H wrote: > > > > > > Jo the original concept and definition of perfection is simply put > > > > > > 'Complete whole hearted and in balance' in other words You can > > even > > > > have > > > > > > something that appears to be malfunctioning but still doing the job > > it > > > > was > > > > > > designed to to.. you have a perfect tool. > > > > > > > When you create a word to explain something you do not understand > > does > > > > not > > > > > > make you enlightened. Words are easy to throw around,, then again > > i > > > > > > guess education is one form of enlightenment. In that realm there > > are > > > > some > > > > > > very enlightened people in this group. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jo <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Allen, I also searched the word Bavwu and this is what I found: > > > > > > > > "The collection of information regarding sustainability, > > perfection, > > > > > > > and the pursuit of enlightenment." > > > > > > > > "Bavwu is to be a collaborated collection of information > > presented is > > > > > > > such a way that anyone can benefit from it. Bavwu is a state of > > > > > > > totally stability and equalization between all components of the > > > > given > > > > > > > system. This is not your typical idea and it goes further then > > try > > > > and > > > > > > > be green. If we wish to transcend a system into a state of Bavwu > > we > > > > > > > must take every aspect of the system into consideration and do > > what > > > > is > > > > > > > best for the people's health, environment, and most of all the > > mental > > > > > > > effects it will have on the present and future generations. If > > > > > > > something is Bavwu it does not have negative effects and can > > continue > > > > > > > to supply a solution to the initial problem indefinitely." > > > > > > > > This thread is my first introduction to the word so I can't > > expound > > > > on > > > > > > > it. It would be nice to know more... > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 10:07 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > sorry it still has no real meaning just one you attached to > > it, > > > > which is > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > longer there unless you attach the meaning to it as you use > > it,, it > > > > is > > > > > > > not a > > > > > > > > simplification of the language of it. > > > > > > > > > the problem with creating words is it is only your definition > > > > and > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > change the meaning to fit what they want ending up with muggled > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > by the way muggle is a old slang term as in mugglehead a > > person > > > > who > > > > > > > > smoked to much pot or dope. the word at the time was used to > > > > indicate a > > > > > > > > fuzzy confused state of being. > > > > > > > > > Now the word is somewhere around a century old and there are > > only > > > > two > > > > > > > times > > > > > > > > I use the word 1: when I feel like explain it and its origin > > 2: > > > > when I > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > not really want them to know what I said ( I have a whole > > series > > > > of > > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > for that (mainly for childish name calling)) and I never > > explain. > > > > The > > > > > > > third > > > > > > > > reason is to have people think I know and understand more than > > I > > > > really > > > > > > > do. > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > Besides it is also not really pronounceable > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Bavwu <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bavwu - The optimal action for highest quality and > > sustainable > > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 10, 1:54 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I looked the word up and the truth is it has no meaning > > except > > > > that > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > person is trying to sell a bill of goods.. Trying > > > > > > > > > > to communicate is difficult enough adding words that really > > > > have no > > > > > > > > > meaning > > > > > > > > > > or value except to sell a bill of goods the person can not > > > > explain > > > > > > > > > normally > > > > > > > > > > so he creates a word to add confusion. > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:24 AM, archytas < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I guess we barely understand language. Bavwu was never > > much > > > > use > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > under fire. The first move needed is to disarm the rich > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > actual democracy, as they currently stop and meaningful > > > > decisions > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > might bavwu. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 8:59 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I disagree because I know what you mean, Molly. Common > > > > language > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > result of agreed communication. Your pointless > > invitation > > > > proves > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > opposite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Molly < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > common language is a good start > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 7:19 am, Lee Douglas < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I largely agree you last sentance > > highlights > > > > the > > > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting humans to agree is an excersise in > > fultility, > > > > and > > > > > > > what I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'know' to be right may indeed differ from what > > others > > > > 'know' > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 9, 5:19 am, Bavwu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is an inevitable trend becoming more and > > more > > > > > > > apparent as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > globalization and technology is connecting us all > > and > > > > we > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > booming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through the Information Age. Standard and quality > > of > > > > living > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > increasing and we are getting more advanced, but > > the > > > > higher > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > climb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the more obvious it is that we did not start on > > the > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > > > foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greed and self interest have molded our world so > > > > > > > dramatically > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idea of Bavwu seems far out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Living sustainable and advancing without side > > effect > > > > should > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our minds, it should be the first thought when > > > > dealing with > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem we face. The bottom line needs to move > > away > > > > from > > > > > > > money > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > self profit and to global stability and equal > > rights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sustainability shouldn't even be our main goal, > > > > > > > sustainability > > > > > > > > > > > should > > ... > > read more »
