You are right Jo I am proud to be american.. I am not proud of the politicians and the money people,
This group totally amazes me on just how much wisdom and insight exists with in it.. It is great to know that you are not alone and others are walking the same path,, and you are not alone. LOL maybe we need to mine the archives and then put out a book calling it "the ideas and quotes of Minds eye" Allan On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > Jo : " The culture of the politician has come too far away from the > culture of the citizens." > > A great line. I'd add the money bags, the banksters, the priviledged, > the specialists paid in towers of cash... most of them forget their > humaneness and come to lose their mindfulness ! In fact, that alone is > the fundamental cause of all that is wrong in our world... and not > their earning or possessions. > > On Oct 8, 4:46 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > I could say much the same about being Scots or British Jo. McArthy is > > interesting because he was such a sham - homosexual, trying to get a > > friend out of the draft and so on, whilst playing to the crowd as a > > driven campaigner. I can really only tell I'm in Europe because the > > beer works faster than in the US or UK. My Bulgarian neighbours here > > are very much like my neighbours when I was young and I'm supplied > > with moonshine as surely as if I lived in the Kentucky foot-hills! > > I'm not sure I can distinguish anything British or American or > > European, other than stuff like tea-drinking. > > > > On Oct 7, 7:54 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm American and I love my country. My grandparents were immigrants. I > > > found their names on the registry at Ellis Island :-) I love the > > > people in this country, even the a-holes. Our diversity makes us > > > colorful, and we are proof that different cultures can exist > > > peacefully within the same borders. Our freedoms give us the ability > > > to express who we are and you can guarantee that someone will come to > > > your rescue if anyone else tries to deny you of that right. > > > > > On the other hand. The American government embarrasses the hell out of > > > me. The culture of the politician has come too far away from the > > > culture of the citizens. Their agenda's do not even come close to what > > > we want. And if you are overseas reading this, then I want you to know > > > - even though we have the choice, and I assure you most of us do > > > vote....... it seldom turns out the way we hope. > > > > > On Oct 7, 9:44 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Oct 4, 4:01 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > When I hear that phrase, I'm reminded of McCarthy, determining from > > > > > congressional committee whether or not someone was properly > American. > > > > > Apparently, being an artist, musician, philosopher, or wanting to > implement > > > > > social platforms to help the less fortunate were all considered > such. > > > > > > > Allan said that he had become un-American due to losing his ability > to > > > > > drive. I'd like to hear you flesh that out some more, Allan, and > then I'd > > > > > like to get some feedback from everyone what they think it means to > be > > > > > American, or UN as the case may be. > > > > > > Funnily enough, it's a topic I cover in my book when I address > America > > > > in particular. One of the points I raised is that ther are two > > > > obvious ways of being American: > > > > 1) if you were born there > > > > 2) if you become a naturalised citizen as per the constitutional > > > > process > > > > > > There are many immigrants, though, who leave their homeland for > > > > various reasons and come to America in the hopes of fulfilling the > > > > 'American Dream' like countless immigrants before them: the ability > to > > > > eke out a better life for themselves and, perhaps, their families. > > > > These immigrants are, arguably, more 'American' in their hearts than > > > > many naturally born citizens, many of whom have become embittered by > > > > life in America not living up to its promise. America is founded on > > > > allowing immigration and building itself up by welcoming those who > > > > come from the rest of the planet. If America ever stops or limits > > > > immigration, it becomes un-American itself. The differences between > > > > people are humanity's greatest strength; therefore, a melting pot > > > > ought to be a strong nation. Yet there are still a minority of > bigots > > > > who would have you believe that, unless you are White Anglo-Saxon > > > > Protestants, you are not American;thus, even the Native Americans > are, > > > > by that rule, un-American. The falsity of their premiss is obvious. > > > > If anyone starts making claims about who is American and who is not > > > > other than by the two scenarios I stated above, they are bigots and > > > > are a danger to America and TRUE American values and ought to be > > > > weeded out. The Bush family and the Cheney family are cases in > > > > point. Their membership in the remains of 'The Knights of the Golden > > > > Circle' is evidence that they are, in fact, bigots in disguise. One > > > > of the offshoots of 'The Knights of the Golden Circle' was the Kuklos > > > > Clan, which, by corruption became the Ku Klux Klan. 'Kuklos' is > Greek > > > > for 'circle' and that is why the offshoot called itself the 'Kuklos > > > > Clan'. Jesse James and William Quantrill were old members of this > > > > 'Knights of the Golden Circle' group. Their original concept was to > > > > conquer the West Indies and Central America and annex the entire lot > > > > as new Slave States. John Wilkes Booth was also a member, thus his > > > > famous line of 'Sic Semper Tyrannis' after assassinating Lincoln, > > > > implying that Lincoln was a tyrant because he stood against the > > > > increase of slave states. > > > > Enough rant! I think I've made my point. Bigots who oppose people > > > > because of petty differences like the relative amount of melanin in a > > > > person's skin are un-American. If you oppose immigration simply > > > > because you dont want 'foreigners' in America, you've lost the > > > > American plot. Remember the Statue of Liberty and Emma Lazarus' > > > > words: Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to > > > > breathe free. THAT is what America stands for. > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
