On Oct 8, 7:11 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
> You are right Jo  I am proud to be american..  I am not proud of the
> politicians and the money people,
>
> This group totally amazes me  on just how much wisdom and insight exists
> with in it..
>
> It is great to know that you are not alone and others are walking the same
> path,, and you are not alone.
>
> LOL  maybe we need to mine the archives and then put out a book calling it
> "the ideas and quotes of Minds eye"
> Allan
>

THAT is an excellent idea.  There have been several phrases posted
here that could easily become 'Old Sayings'.  Here's to us humble few,
eh?

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> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Jo : " The culture of the politician has come too far away from the
> > culture of the citizens."
>
> > A great line. I'd add the money bags, the banksters, the priviledged,
> > the specialists paid in towers of cash... most of them forget their
> > humaneness and come to lose their mindfulness ! In fact, that alone is
> > the fundamental cause of all that is wrong in our world... and not
> > their earning or possessions.
>
> > On Oct 8, 4:46 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I could say much the same about being Scots or British Jo. McArthy is
> > > interesting because he was such a sham - homosexual, trying to get a
> > > friend out of the draft and so on, whilst playing to the crowd as a
> > > driven campaigner.  I can really only tell I'm in Europe because the
> > > beer works faster than in the US or UK.  My Bulgarian neighbours here
> > > are very much like my neighbours when I was young and I'm supplied
> > > with moonshine as surely as if I lived in the Kentucky foot-hills!
> > > I'm not sure I can distinguish anything British or American or
> > > European, other than stuff like tea-drinking.
>
> > > On Oct 7, 7:54 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm American and I love my country. My grandparents were immigrants. I
> > > > found their names on the registry at Ellis Island :-) I love the
> > > > people in this country, even the a-holes. Our diversity makes us
> > > > colorful, and we are proof that different cultures can exist
> > > > peacefully within the same borders. Our freedoms give us the ability
> > > > to express who we are and you can guarantee that someone will come to
> > > > your rescue if anyone else tries to deny you of that right.
>
> > > > On the other hand. The American government embarrasses the hell out of
> > > > me. The culture of the politician has come too far away from the
> > > > culture of the citizens. Their agenda's do not even come close to what
> > > > we want. And if you are overseas reading this, then I want you to know
> > > > - even though we have the choice, and I assure you most of us do
> > > > vote....... it seldom turns out the way we hope.
>
> > > > On Oct 7, 9:44 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > On Oct 4, 4:01 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > When I hear that phrase, I'm reminded of McCarthy, determining from
> > > > > > congressional committee whether or not someone was properly
> > American.
> > > > > > Apparently, being an artist, musician, philosopher, or wanting to
> > implement
> > > > > > social platforms to help the less fortunate were all considered
> > such.
>
> > > > > > Allan said that he had become un-American due to losing his ability
> > to
> > > > > > drive. I'd like to hear you flesh that out some more, Allan, and
> > then I'd
> > > > > > like to get some feedback from everyone what they think it means to
> > be
> > > > > > American, or UN as the case may be.
>
> > > > > Funnily enough, it's a topic I cover in my book when I address
> > America
> > > > > in particular.  One of the points I raised is that ther are two
> > > > > obvious ways of being American:
> > > > >   1) if you were born there
> > > > >   2) if you become a naturalised citizen as per the constitutional
> > > > > process
>
> > > > > There are many immigrants, though, who leave their homeland for
> > > > > various reasons and come to America in the hopes of fulfilling the
> > > > > 'American Dream' like countless immigrants before them: the ability
> > to
> > > > > eke out a better life for themselves and, perhaps, their families.
> > > > > These immigrants are, arguably, more 'American' in their hearts than
> > > > > many naturally born citizens, many of whom have become embittered by
> > > > > life in America not living up to its promise.  America is founded on
> > > > > allowing immigration and building itself up by welcoming those who
> > > > > come from the rest of the planet.  If America ever stops or limits
> > > > > immigration, it becomes un-American itself.  The differences between
> > > > > people are humanity's greatest strength; therefore, a melting pot
> > > > > ought to be a strong nation.  Yet there are still a minority of
> > bigots
> > > > > who would have you believe that, unless you are White Anglo-Saxon
> > > > > Protestants, you are not American;thus, even the Native Americans
> > are,
> > > > > by that rule, un-American.  The falsity of their premiss is obvious.
> > > > > If anyone starts making claims about who is American and who is not
> > > > > other than by the two scenarios I stated above, they are bigots and
> > > > > are a danger to America and TRUE American values and ought to be
> > > > > weeded out.  The Bush family and the Cheney family are cases in
> > > > > point.  Their membership in the remains of 'The Knights of the Golden
> > > > > Circle' is evidence that they are, in fact, bigots in disguise.  One
> > > > > of the offshoots of 'The Knights of the Golden Circle' was the Kuklos
> > > > > Clan, which, by corruption became the Ku Klux Klan.  'Kuklos' is
> > Greek
> > > > > for 'circle' and that is why the offshoot called itself the 'Kuklos
> > > > > Clan'.  Jesse James and William Quantrill were old members of this
> > > > > 'Knights of the Golden Circle' group.  Their original concept was to
> > > > > conquer the West Indies and Central America and annex the entire lot
> > > > > as new Slave States.  John Wilkes Booth was also a member, thus his
> > > > > famous line of 'Sic Semper Tyrannis' after assassinating Lincoln,
> > > > > implying that Lincoln was a tyrant because he stood against the
> > > > > increase of slave states.
> > > > > Enough rant!  I think I've made my point.  Bigots who oppose people
> > > > > because of petty differences like the relative amount of melanin in a
> > > > > person's skin are un-American.  If you oppose immigration simply
> > > > > because you dont want 'foreigners' in America, you've lost the
> > > > > American plot.  Remember the Statue of Liberty and Emma Lazarus'
> > > > > words: Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to
> > > > > breathe free.  THAT is what America stands for.
>
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