I could say much the same about being Scots or British Jo. McArthy is
interesting because he was such a sham - homosexual, trying to get a
friend out of the draft and so on, whilst playing to the crowd as a
driven campaigner.  I can really only tell I'm in Europe because the
beer works faster than in the US or UK.  My Bulgarian neighbours here
are very much like my neighbours when I was young and I'm supplied
with moonshine as surely as if I lived in the Kentucky foot-hills!
I'm not sure I can distinguish anything British or American or
European, other than stuff like tea-drinking.

On Oct 7, 7:54 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm American and I love my country. My grandparents were immigrants. I
> found their names on the registry at Ellis Island :-) I love the
> people in this country, even the a-holes. Our diversity makes us
> colorful, and we are proof that different cultures can exist
> peacefully within the same borders. Our freedoms give us the ability
> to express who we are and you can guarantee that someone will come to
> your rescue if anyone else tries to deny you of that right.
>
> On the other hand. The American government embarrasses the hell out of
> me. The culture of the politician has come too far away from the
> culture of the citizens. Their agenda's do not even come close to what
> we want. And if you are overseas reading this, then I want you to know
> - even though we have the choice, and I assure you most of us do
> vote....... it seldom turns out the way we hope.
>
> On Oct 7, 9:44 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Oct 4, 4:01 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > When I hear that phrase, I'm reminded of McCarthy, determining from
> > > congressional committee whether or not someone was properly American.
> > > Apparently, being an artist, musician, philosopher, or wanting to 
> > > implement
> > > social platforms to help the less fortunate were all considered such.
>
> > > Allan said that he had become un-American due to losing his ability to
> > > drive. I'd like to hear you flesh that out some more, Allan, and then I'd
> > > like to get some feedback from everyone what they think it means to be
> > > American, or UN as the case may be.
>
> > Funnily enough, it's a topic I cover in my book when I address America
> > in particular.  One of the points I raised is that ther are two
> > obvious ways of being American:
> >   1) if you were born there
> >   2) if you become a naturalised citizen as per the constitutional
> > process
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> > There are many immigrants, though, who leave their homeland for
> > various reasons and come to America in the hopes of fulfilling the
> > 'American Dream' like countless immigrants before them: the ability to
> > eke out a better life for themselves and, perhaps, their families.
> > These immigrants are, arguably, more 'American' in their hearts than
> > many naturally born citizens, many of whom have become embittered by
> > life in America not living up to its promise.  America is founded on
> > allowing immigration and building itself up by welcoming those who
> > come from the rest of the planet.  If America ever stops or limits
> > immigration, it becomes un-American itself.  The differences between
> > people are humanity's greatest strength; therefore, a melting pot
> > ought to be a strong nation.  Yet there are still a minority of bigots
> > who would have you believe that, unless you are White Anglo-Saxon
> > Protestants, you are not American;thus, even the Native Americans are,
> > by that rule, un-American.  The falsity of their premiss is obvious.
> > If anyone starts making claims about who is American and who is not
> > other than by the two scenarios I stated above, they are bigots and
> > are a danger to America and TRUE American values and ought to be
> > weeded out.  The Bush family and the Cheney family are cases in
> > point.  Their membership in the remains of 'The Knights of the Golden
> > Circle' is evidence that they are, in fact, bigots in disguise.  One
> > of the offshoots of 'The Knights of the Golden Circle' was the Kuklos
> > Clan, which, by corruption became the Ku Klux Klan.  'Kuklos' is Greek
> > for 'circle' and that is why the offshoot called itself the 'Kuklos
> > Clan'.  Jesse James and William Quantrill were old members of this
> > 'Knights of the Golden Circle' group.  Their original concept was to
> > conquer the West Indies and Central America and annex the entire lot
> > as new Slave States.  John Wilkes Booth was also a member, thus his
> > famous line of 'Sic Semper Tyrannis' after assassinating Lincoln,
> > implying that Lincoln was a tyrant because he stood against the
> > increase of slave states.
> > Enough rant!  I think I've made my point.  Bigots who oppose people
> > because of petty differences like the relative amount of melanin in a
> > person's skin are un-American.  If you oppose immigration simply
> > because you dont want 'foreigners' in America, you've lost the
> > American plot.  Remember the Statue of Liberty and Emma Lazarus'
> > words: Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to
> > breathe free.  THAT is what America stands for.

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