A lot of sense in there Nanook.  Some may quibble you should have
replied to the threads, but content is more interesting to me.  I'm
not a believer in us all becoming rich in the material sense - more
that I think this would happen in spirit if we could get rid of
material serfdom.

On Feb 11, 1:15 pm, Nanook <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for not jumping in more often. Too much going on. But I think the new 
> discoveries I've made shed a lot of light on all of these points. So, I 
> suggest taking a look at my website:http://a3society.organd follow up with 
> the books if you read things you like.
>
> In short, as Don says, western society has failed to face up to human nature. 
> Try reading my discussion athttp://www.a3society.org/7%20Deadly%20Sins And, 
> please note, the term 7 deadly sins was NOT originally a religious phrase. It 
> was an ancient observation about human nature. Second, the discussions under 
> the Language tab describe how the human process of learning language explain 
> the circus we see in political campaigns. The Democracy and Government tabs 
> explain why governments are falling apart, and the pages on Plural Democracy 
> and fixing democracy provide solutions.
>
> Unfortunately, the point Arcytas makes below about human not being able to 
> solve problems is so true. And the main culprits are the Single Sentence 
> Logic problem and the Multiple Religions Problem. Both are discussed on the 
> Language tab.
>
> Be well,
>
> Nanook
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:10 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group:http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye/topics
>
> Science and the modern economic plight [7 Updates]
>  Science and the modern economic plight
> Don Johnson <[email protected]> Feb 09 11:31PM -0600
>
> Ah arch, you are wallowing in frustration yet again. Kick that black dog in
> the nads. The metaphorical one and not the happy, frolicking drooling
> one. That one you can scratch behind the ears. One day you must come to
> terms with the simple fact that human beings are irrational and selfish by
> nature. I hope I get a chance to read that article in the Economist but
> since I'm well aware of our Statist direction here in the USA it probably
> won't hold much news for me. (plus I'm lazy and probably inept as well)
> What makes the current situation easier for me to bear is I'm mostly
> concerned with only "local" issues. Very local most important and then
> branching out in importance so that my level of compassion for those in
> Darfur or Ethiopia and even Syria is near non-existant. I can't be
> bothered. I'm more worried about improving my lot and believe you me I'm
> getting a bit tired of hearing all about the troubles around the world on
> NPR with not NEAR enough attention being payed to our troubles at home. All
> that said I'm fully aware things are better here in America and even better
> here locally in the Houston area then they are most other places. Our poor
> are rich compared to other places. My knowledge of Britain is limited but I
> would assume it is much the same there. If you're poor and avoid the drugs
> you can live a pretty decent life and never have to work in our country. I
> don't see that as possible if we didn't grease the skids for the rich to
> make more money. The trick is too give the new kids a chance to become rich
> as well. As you have noted this is becoming less likely due to Statism. The
> super wealthy are bribing their way to permanent dominance. They do this by
> influencing regulation. Makes me crazy every time some new regulation
> that's suposed to "protect the consumer" does nothing of the sort. Lies and
> more lies. Still looking out for number One here.
>
> I do wish everyone else well however. Especially you and everyone else on
> this forum. Cheers all.
>
> dj
>
> -The idea of taking on the burdens of the whole world scare me. We do
> enough, too much really, already. I don't want a world government and
> listening to Obama and Mrs. Clinton and pickyourUNdelegate that's what they
> all want and actively pursue. Speaking of Hillary has anyone else noticed
> she's looking rather.....medicated lately? Sleeping with Prince Valium
> perhaps? Oxycotin maybe. Ah well, we all get older and I noticed I look
> pretty shitty myself lately and all I abuse is caffeine.
>
> Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:49AM +0100
>
> Yes on you are right ,, the question is why are not
> these bribers being prosecuted.
> oh yes I for got almost all of congress is involved. including the present
> Republican Candidate. They have made him one of them and is solidly in
> their pocket..
> Allan
>
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> )
> |_D Allan
>
> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:53AM +0100
>
> Neil I think it is important bring what the problems are in simple clear
> statements instead of long and non rememberable statements.
> What I do not understand in his statement is : Knowledge with out Concience.
> Allan
>
> --
> (
> )
> |_D Allan
>
> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 05:25AM -0800
>
> The lesson from science is that bullshit can be deconstructed to find
> out what we might really base argument on. In economics this leaves
> us with more or less nothing to say and people can't see that as a
> benefit. Science is now showing that most people are so useless at
> problem solving they can't do stuff orang-outangs can. With this kind
> of 'ability' its perhaps not surprising we vote for GOP and the rest!
>
> rigsy03 <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:11AM -0800
>
> It takes hard work to be/stay wealthy.
> Define pleasure- individual or cultural.
> Education builds character supposedly.
> Define business versus huckterism.
> Science is indifferent- can be good or evil.
> What religion?
> Politics has become a wasteful, dishonest game.
>
> Gandhi reintroduced home weaving, plus non-payment of taxes, general
> strikes, non-violent demonstrations (satyagraha) and there was some
> improvement- maybe strengthened by Indian participation in WWII for
> the Brits...but was killed by a Hindu so the nation was not unified-
> plus think of the slaughter in the partition- India and Pakistan-
> which still is a thorny problem. The entire Middle East and North
> Africa are a mess and very dangerous. The Green Zone may not last in
> Iraq, for instance. Really- very stupid American policy since the Gulf
> War or back to the 1840's for the Brits in Afghanistan (a total
> wasteland). Good reads are The Blue Nile and The White Nile by Alan
> Moorehead- or Something of Value by Robert Ruark (?). Anyway, I don
> think the internet is going to solve humanity's problems- there is too
> much smoldering resentment. What's our contribution? Weapon systems or
> idiotic merchandise? Plus the displaced will flee to Europe and cause
> more economic pressure, etc. I wonder if our goal is to destabilize
> Russia and China?
>
> I am cooking Greek today- moussaka. A humble tribute.
>
> archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 10:32AM -0800
>
> Britain actually bombed Kabul as late as 1921 and prevented a secular
> king who wanted to use the Turkish model to stabilise and modernise in
> 1930. Science would seek to stabilise the population and provide a
> war free environment for all. But most people won't make the effort
> to understand. Gandhi ended up in some weird rationalisations of
> sleeping with children to save the world through denial.
>
> Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:53PM +0100
>
> Don't go blaming the borders of Pakistan and India on Gandhi. that honor
> belongs solely on the shoulders of a Brit,, I see nothing wrong with home
> weaving It helps the poor earn a living.. I have lost a lot of money
> mainly to import problems.. so I could not receive my merchandise.. these
> items I ordered were hand made in homes.. which people made about $1 US a
> day making,, filling my orders,, yes I paid in advance so I was able to
> make sure they could feed their families.. because the product could not
> make it through customs. I am foolish I ate the financial loss. better me
> than the poor.
>
> indecently on simple interest of which is offered today.. I would be making
> some where between four and five times that I receive in retirement.. would
> you care to show where your money came from?? and how you worked hard to
> make it??? and how you have to work hard to retain it?
>
> Yes a large contribution of the western and eastern countries to the world
> is weapons so they can make even more money from them and increase
> poverty,, a great statement for advanced society isn't it..
> Allan
>
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