what I see is a blatant promotion of his web site. As usual. Allan On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:53 AM, James Lynch <[email protected]> wrote:
> Welcome back Nanook, one problem I see we have similar thoughts on is > that of laziness. I think tribes and communities evolved methods for > keeping members duly inspired and active in the community such that > providing some good is more rewarding than feeding the narcissist / > consumer role (dichotomy not intended just sarcasm). In our society > laziness is viewed as deviant or degenerate behavior unless one is > independently wealthy, I think it interesting how greatly this differs > for instance from how one would teach a child to develop positive self > respect/reliance/fulfillment/efficacy. I count the times people > condescend to explain the basic differences between children and > 'grown' adults to me, but those conversations lead to aggressive tones > about the 'bottom line' as though I have attacked some bedrock of > responsibility by discussing in large terms our massive social > problems. > > This does make me think more of Archytas' question of whether the > economy must be driven by libido. Would we even know what a morally > driven economy would look like? I don't mean the niche religious and > nonprofit sector, though that is growing. An example is when I think > about energy needs, one of my favorite projects is the massive solar > concentrator setup they put in the desert. If it costs slightly more > per kWh because people need to maintain the equipment I don't care so > much, it means jobs and an independent energy sector. It brings to > light a problem with society, as we seem to have no purpose or > identity in the modern era. Of course my unnamed opponent would nail > out a few bottom lines to define life by.. at the exhaustion of which > and with frustration, 'then why not just give up and die?'. And I > think, 'what a predicament, glad it's not mine!' > > Just got to "The failure of individualism" on SDS and Society, the > dissection of the seven deadly sins is very interesting and reads > comfortably/enjoyable. Very relevant indeed. > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Nanook <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Sorry for not jumping in more often. Too much going on. But I think the > new > > discoveries I've made shed a lot of light on all of these points. So, I > > suggest taking a look at my website: http://a3society.org and follow up > with > > the books if you read things you like. > > > > In short, as Don says, western society has failed to face up to human > > nature. Try reading my discussion > > at http://www.a3society.org/7%20Deadly%20Sins And, please note, the > term 7 > > deadly sins was NOT originally a religious phrase. It was an ancient > > observation about human nature. Second, the discussions under the > Language > > tab describe how the human process of learning language explain the > circus > > we see in political campaigns. The Democracy and Government tabs explain > why > > governments are falling apart, and the pages on Plural Democracy and > fixing > > democracy provide solutions. > > > > Unfortunately, the point Arcytas makes below about human not being able > to > > solve problems is so true. And the main culprits are the Single Sentence > > Logic problem and the Multiple Religions Problem. Both are discussed on > the > > Language tab. > > > > Be well, > > > > Nanook > > > > On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:10 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Today's Topic Summary > > > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye/topics > > > > Science and the modern economic plight [7 Updates] > > > > Science and the modern economic plight > > > > Don Johnson <[email protected]> Feb 09 11:31PM -0600 > > > > Ah arch, you are wallowing in frustration yet again. Kick that black dog > in > > the nads. The metaphorical one and not the happy, frolicking drooling > > one. That one you can scratch behind the ears. One day you must come to > > terms with the simple fact that human beings are irrational and selfish > by > > nature. I hope I get a chance to read that article in the Economist but > > since I'm well aware of our Statist direction here in the USA it probably > > won't hold much news for me. (plus I'm lazy and probably inept as well) > > What makes the current situation easier for me to bear is I'm mostly > > concerned with only "local" issues. Very local most important and then > > branching out in importance so that my level of compassion for those in > > Darfur or Ethiopia and even Syria is near non-existant. I can't be > > bothered. I'm more worried about improving my lot and believe you me I'm > > getting a bit tired of hearing all about the troubles around the world on > > NPR with not NEAR enough attention being payed to our troubles at home. > All > > that said I'm fully aware things are better here in America and even > better > > here locally in the Houston area then they are most other places. Our > poor > > are rich compared to other places. My knowledge of Britain is limited > but I > > would assume it is much the same there. If you're poor and avoid the > drugs > > you can live a pretty decent life and never have to work in our country. > I > > don't see that as possible if we didn't grease the skids for the rich to > > make more money. The trick is too give the new kids a chance to become > rich > > as well. As you have noted this is becoming less likely due to Statism. > The > > super wealthy are bribing their way to permanent dominance. They do this > by > > influencing regulation. Makes me crazy every time some new regulation > > that's suposed to "protect the consumer" does nothing of the sort. Lies > and > > more lies. Still looking out for number One here. > > > > I do wish everyone else well however. Especially you and everyone else on > > this forum. Cheers all. > > > > dj > > > > > > -The idea of taking on the burdens of the whole world scare me. We do > > enough, too much really, already. I don't want a world government and > > listening to Obama and Mrs. Clinton and pickyourUNdelegate that's what > they > > all want and actively pursue. Speaking of Hillary has anyone else noticed > > she's looking rather.....medicated lately? Sleeping with Prince Valium > > perhaps? Oxycotin maybe. Ah well, we all get older and I noticed I look > > pretty shitty myself lately and all I abuse is caffeine. > > > > > > > > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:49AM +0100 > > > > Yes on you are right ,, the question is why are not > > these bribers being prosecuted. > > oh yes I for got almost all of congress is involved. including the > present > > Republican Candidate. They have made him one of them and is solidly in > > their pocket.. > > Allan > > > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > |_D Allan > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > > > > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:53AM +0100 > > > > Neil I think it is important bring what the problems are in simple clear > > statements instead of long and non rememberable statements. > > What I do not understand in his statement is : Knowledge with out > Concience. > > Allan > > > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > |_D Allan > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > > > > archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 05:25AM -0800 > > > > The lesson from science is that bullshit can be deconstructed to find > > out what we might really base argument on. In economics this leaves > > us with more or less nothing to say and people can't see that as a > > benefit. Science is now showing that most people are so useless at > > problem solving they can't do stuff orang-outangs can. With this kind > > of 'ability' its perhaps not surprising we vote for GOP and the rest! > > > > > > > > rigsy03 <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:11AM -0800 > > > > It takes hard work to be/stay wealthy. > > Define pleasure- individual or cultural. > > Education builds character supposedly. > > Define business versus huckterism. > > Science is indifferent- can be good or evil. > > What religion? > > Politics has become a wasteful, dishonest game. > > > > Gandhi reintroduced home weaving, plus non-payment of taxes, general > > strikes, non-violent demonstrations (satyagraha) and there was some > > improvement- maybe strengthened by Indian participation in WWII for > > the Brits...but was killed by a Hindu so the nation was not unified- > > plus think of the slaughter in the partition- India and Pakistan- > > which still is a thorny problem. The entire Middle East and North > > Africa are a mess and very dangerous. The Green Zone may not last in > > Iraq, for instance. Really- very stupid American policy since the Gulf > > War or back to the 1840's for the Brits in Afghanistan (a total > > wasteland). Good reads are The Blue Nile and The White Nile by Alan > > Moorehead- or Something of Value by Robert Ruark (?). Anyway, I don > > think the internet is going to solve humanity's problems- there is too > > much smoldering resentment. What's our contribution? Weapon systems or > > idiotic merchandise? Plus the displaced will flee to Europe and cause > > more economic pressure, etc. I wonder if our goal is to destabilize > > Russia and China? > > > > I am cooking Greek today- moussaka. A humble tribute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 10:32AM -0800 > > > > Britain actually bombed Kabul as late as 1921 and prevented a secular > > king who wanted to use the Turkish model to stabilise and modernise in > > 1930. Science would seek to stabilise the population and provide a > > war free environment for all. But most people won't make the effort > > to understand. Gandhi ended up in some weird rationalisations of > > sleeping with children to save the world through denial. > > > > > > > > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:53PM +0100 > > > > Don't go blaming the borders of Pakistan and India on Gandhi. that honor > > belongs solely on the shoulders of a Brit,, I see nothing wrong with home > > weaving It helps the poor earn a living.. I have lost a lot of money > > mainly to import problems.. so I could not receive my merchandise.. these > > items I ordered were hand made in homes.. which people made about $1 US a > > day making,, filling my orders,, yes I paid in advance so I was able to > > make sure they could feed their families.. because the product could not > > make it through customs. I am foolish I ate the financial loss. better me > > than the poor. > > > > indecently on simple interest of which is offered today.. I would be > making > > some where between four and five times that I receive in retirement.. > would > > you care to show where your money came from?? and how you worked hard to > > make it??? and how you have to work hard to retain it? > > > > Yes a large contribution of the western and eastern countries to the > world > > is weapons so they can make even more money from them and increase > > poverty,, a great statement for advanced society isn't it.. > > Allan > > > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > |_D Allan > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group > > minds-eye. > > You can post via email. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. > > For more options, visit this group. > > > > > > Nanook > > [email protected] > > > > http://bit.ly/WordClay-nappi > > http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/Nappi > > http://A3society.org > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/brucenappi > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
