what I see is a blatant promotion of his web site. As usual.
Allan

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:53 AM, James Lynch <[email protected]> wrote:

> Welcome back Nanook, one problem I see we have similar thoughts on is
> that of laziness. I think tribes and communities evolved methods for
> keeping members duly inspired and active in the community such that
> providing some good is more rewarding than feeding the narcissist /
> consumer role (dichotomy not intended just sarcasm). In our society
> laziness is viewed as deviant or degenerate behavior unless one is
> independently wealthy, I think it interesting how greatly this differs
> for instance from how one would teach a child to develop positive self
> respect/reliance/fulfillment/efficacy. I count the times people
> condescend to explain the basic differences between children and
> 'grown' adults to me, but those conversations lead to aggressive tones
> about the 'bottom line' as though I have attacked some bedrock of
> responsibility by discussing in large terms our massive social
> problems.
>
> This does make me think more of Archytas' question of whether the
> economy must be driven by libido. Would we even know what a morally
> driven economy would look like? I don't mean the niche religious and
> nonprofit sector, though that is growing. An example is when I think
> about energy needs, one of my favorite projects is the massive solar
> concentrator setup they put in the desert. If it costs slightly more
> per kWh because people need to maintain the equipment I don't care so
> much, it means jobs and an independent energy sector. It brings to
> light a problem with society, as we seem to have no purpose or
> identity in the modern era. Of course my unnamed opponent would nail
> out a few bottom lines to define life by.. at the exhaustion of which
> and with frustration, 'then why not just give up and die?'. And I
> think, 'what a predicament, glad it's not mine!'
>
> Just got to "The failure of individualism" on SDS and Society, the
> dissection of the seven deadly sins is very interesting and reads
> comfortably/enjoyable. Very relevant indeed.
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Nanook <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry for not jumping in more often. Too much going on. But I think the
> new
> > discoveries I've made shed a lot of light on all of these points. So, I
> > suggest taking a look at my website: http://a3society.org and follow up
> with
> > the books if you read things you like.
> >
> > In short, as Don says, western society has failed to face up to human
> > nature. Try reading my discussion
> > at http://www.a3society.org/7%20Deadly%20Sins  And, please note, the
> term 7
> > deadly sins was NOT originally a religious phrase. It was an ancient
> > observation about human nature. Second, the discussions under the
> Language
> > tab describe how the human process of learning language explain the
> circus
> > we see in political campaigns. The Democracy and Government tabs explain
> why
> > governments are falling apart, and the pages on Plural Democracy and
> fixing
> > democracy provide solutions.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the point Arcytas makes below about human not being able
> to
> > solve problems is so true. And the main culprits are the Single Sentence
> > Logic problem and the Multiple Religions Problem. Both are discussed on
> the
> > Language tab.
> >
> > Be well,
> >
> > Nanook
> >
> > On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:10 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >   Today's Topic Summary
> >
> > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye/topics
> >
> > Science and the modern economic plight [7 Updates]
> >
> >  Science and the modern economic plight
> >
> > Don Johnson <[email protected]> Feb 09 11:31PM -0600
> >
> > Ah arch, you are wallowing in frustration yet again. Kick that black dog
> in
> > the nads. The metaphorical one and not the happy, frolicking drooling
> > one. That one you can scratch behind the ears. One day you must come to
> > terms with the simple fact that human beings are irrational and selfish
> by
> > nature. I hope I get a chance to read that article in the Economist but
> > since I'm well aware of our Statist direction here in the USA it probably
> > won't hold much news for me. (plus I'm lazy and probably inept as well)
> > What makes the current situation easier for me to bear is I'm mostly
> > concerned with only "local" issues. Very local most important and then
> > branching out in importance so that my level of compassion for those in
> > Darfur or Ethiopia and even Syria is near non-existant. I can't be
> > bothered. I'm more worried about improving my lot and believe you me I'm
> > getting a bit tired of hearing all about the troubles around the world on
> > NPR with not NEAR enough attention being payed to our troubles at home.
> All
> > that said I'm fully aware things are better here in America and even
> better
> > here locally in the Houston area then they are most other places. Our
> poor
> > are rich compared to other places. My knowledge of Britain is limited
> but I
> > would assume it is much the same there. If you're poor and avoid the
> drugs
> > you can live a pretty decent life and never have to work in our country.
> I
> > don't see that as possible if we didn't grease the skids for the rich to
> > make more money. The trick is too give the new kids a chance to become
> rich
> > as well. As you have noted this is becoming less likely due to Statism.
> The
> > super wealthy are bribing their way to permanent dominance. They do this
> by
> > influencing regulation. Makes me crazy every time some new regulation
> > that's suposed to "protect the consumer" does nothing of the sort. Lies
> and
> > more lies. Still looking out for number One here.
> >
> > I do wish everyone else well however. Especially you and everyone else on
> > this forum. Cheers all.
> >
> > dj
> >
> >
> > -The idea of taking on the burdens of the whole world scare me. We do
> > enough, too much really, already. I don't want a world government and
> > listening to Obama and Mrs. Clinton and pickyourUNdelegate that's what
> they
> > all want and actively pursue. Speaking of Hillary has anyone else noticed
> > she's looking rather.....medicated lately? Sleeping with Prince Valium
> > perhaps? Oxycotin maybe. Ah well, we all get older and I noticed I look
> > pretty shitty myself lately and all I abuse is caffeine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:49AM +0100
> >
> > Yes on you are right ,, the question is why are not
> > these bribers being prosecuted.
> > oh yes I for got almost all of congress is involved. including the
> present
> > Republican Candidate. They have made him one of them and is solidly in
> > their pocket..
> > Allan
> >
> >
> > --
> > (
> > )
> > |_D Allan
> >
> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
> >
> >
> > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:53AM +0100
> >
> > Neil I think it is important bring what the problems are in simple clear
> > statements instead of long and non rememberable statements.
> > What I do not understand in his statement is : Knowledge with out
> Concience.
> > Allan
> >
> >
> > --
> > (
> > )
> > |_D Allan
> >
> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
> >
> >
> > archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 05:25AM -0800
> >
> > The lesson from science is that bullshit can be deconstructed to find
> > out what we might really base argument on. In economics this leaves
> > us with more or less nothing to say and people can't see that as a
> > benefit. Science is now showing that most people are so useless at
> > problem solving they can't do stuff orang-outangs can. With this kind
> > of 'ability' its perhaps not surprising we vote for GOP and the rest!
> >
> >
> >
> > rigsy03 <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:11AM -0800
> >
> > It takes hard work to be/stay wealthy.
> > Define pleasure- individual or cultural.
> > Education builds character supposedly.
> > Define business versus huckterism.
> > Science is indifferent- can be good or evil.
> > What religion?
> > Politics has become a wasteful, dishonest game.
> >
> > Gandhi reintroduced home weaving, plus non-payment of taxes, general
> > strikes, non-violent demonstrations (satyagraha) and there was some
> > improvement- maybe strengthened by Indian participation in WWII for
> > the Brits...but was killed by a Hindu so the nation was not unified-
> > plus think of the slaughter in the partition- India and Pakistan-
> > which still is a thorny problem. The entire Middle East and North
> > Africa are a mess and very dangerous. The Green Zone may not last in
> > Iraq, for instance. Really- very stupid American policy since the Gulf
> > War or back to the 1840's for the Brits in Afghanistan (a total
> > wasteland). Good reads are The Blue Nile and The White Nile by Alan
> > Moorehead- or Something of Value by Robert Ruark (?). Anyway, I don
> > think the internet is going to solve humanity's problems- there is too
> > much smoldering resentment. What's our contribution? Weapon systems or
> > idiotic merchandise? Plus the displaced will flee to Europe and cause
> > more economic pressure, etc. I wonder if our goal is to destabilize
> > Russia and China?
> >
> > I am cooking Greek today- moussaka. A humble tribute.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 10:32AM -0800
> >
> > Britain actually bombed Kabul as late as 1921 and prevented a secular
> > king who wanted to use the Turkish model to stabilise and modernise in
> > 1930. Science would seek to stabilise the population and provide a
> > war free environment for all. But most people won't make the effort
> > to understand. Gandhi ended up in some weird rationalisations of
> > sleeping with children to save the world through denial.
> >
> >
> >
> > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:53PM +0100
> >
> > Don't go blaming the borders of Pakistan and India on Gandhi. that honor
> > belongs solely on the shoulders of a Brit,, I see nothing wrong with home
> > weaving It helps the poor earn a living.. I have lost a lot of money
> > mainly to import problems.. so I could not receive my merchandise.. these
> > items I ordered were hand made in homes.. which people made about $1 US a
> > day making,, filling my orders,, yes I paid in advance so I was able to
> > make sure they could feed their families.. because the product could not
> > make it through customs. I am foolish I ate the financial loss. better me
> > than the poor.
> >
> > indecently on simple interest of which is offered today.. I would be
> making
> > some where between four and five times that I receive in retirement..
> would
> > you care to show where your money came from?? and how you worked hard to
> > make it??? and how you have to work hard to retain it?
> >
> > Yes a large contribution of the western and eastern countries to the
> world
> > is weapons so they can make even more money from them and increase
> > poverty,, a great statement for advanced society isn't it..
> > Allan
> >
> >
> > --
> > (
> > )
> > |_D Allan
> >
> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
> >
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