Heh, that too Allan, I've jabbed before jokingly and with Pat too. :) At least it is interesting, the content is accessible and a bit relevant. In that regard I consider it a resource.
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > what I see is a blatant promotion of his web site. As usual. > Allan > > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:53 AM, James Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Welcome back Nanook, one problem I see we have similar thoughts on is >> that of laziness. I think tribes and communities evolved methods for >> keeping members duly inspired and active in the community such that >> providing some good is more rewarding than feeding the narcissist / >> consumer role (dichotomy not intended just sarcasm). In our society >> laziness is viewed as deviant or degenerate behavior unless one is >> independently wealthy, I think it interesting how greatly this differs >> for instance from how one would teach a child to develop positive self >> respect/reliance/fulfillment/efficacy. I count the times people >> condescend to explain the basic differences between children and >> 'grown' adults to me, but those conversations lead to aggressive tones >> about the 'bottom line' as though I have attacked some bedrock of >> responsibility by discussing in large terms our massive social >> problems. >> >> This does make me think more of Archytas' question of whether the >> economy must be driven by libido. Would we even know what a morally >> driven economy would look like? I don't mean the niche religious and >> nonprofit sector, though that is growing. An example is when I think >> about energy needs, one of my favorite projects is the massive solar >> concentrator setup they put in the desert. If it costs slightly more >> per kWh because people need to maintain the equipment I don't care so >> much, it means jobs and an independent energy sector. It brings to >> light a problem with society, as we seem to have no purpose or >> identity in the modern era. Of course my unnamed opponent would nail >> out a few bottom lines to define life by.. at the exhaustion of which >> and with frustration, 'then why not just give up and die?'. And I >> think, 'what a predicament, glad it's not mine!' >> >> Just got to "The failure of individualism" on SDS and Society, the >> dissection of the seven deadly sins is very interesting and reads >> comfortably/enjoyable. Very relevant indeed. >> >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Nanook <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Sorry for not jumping in more often. Too much going on. But I think the >> > new >> > discoveries I've made shed a lot of light on all of these points. So, I >> > suggest taking a look at my website: http://a3society.org and follow up >> > with >> > the books if you read things you like. >> > >> > In short, as Don says, western society has failed to face up to human >> > nature. Try reading my discussion >> > at http://www.a3society.org/7%20Deadly%20Sins And, please note, the >> > term 7 >> > deadly sins was NOT originally a religious phrase. It was an ancient >> > observation about human nature. Second, the discussions under the >> > Language >> > tab describe how the human process of learning language explain the >> > circus >> > we see in political campaigns. The Democracy and Government tabs explain >> > why >> > governments are falling apart, and the pages on Plural Democracy and >> > fixing >> > democracy provide solutions. >> > >> > Unfortunately, the point Arcytas makes below about human not being able >> > to >> > solve problems is so true. And the main culprits are the Single Sentence >> > Logic problem and the Multiple Religions Problem. Both are discussed on >> > the >> > Language tab. >> > >> > Be well, >> > >> > Nanook >> > >> > On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:10 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> > >> > Today's Topic Summary >> > >> > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye/topics >> > >> > Science and the modern economic plight [7 Updates] >> > >> > Science and the modern economic plight >> > >> > Don Johnson <[email protected]> Feb 09 11:31PM -0600 >> > >> > Ah arch, you are wallowing in frustration yet again. Kick that black dog >> > in >> > the nads. The metaphorical one and not the happy, frolicking drooling >> > one. That one you can scratch behind the ears. One day you must come to >> > terms with the simple fact that human beings are irrational and selfish >> > by >> > nature. I hope I get a chance to read that article in the Economist but >> > since I'm well aware of our Statist direction here in the USA it >> > probably >> > won't hold much news for me. (plus I'm lazy and probably inept as well) >> > What makes the current situation easier for me to bear is I'm mostly >> > concerned with only "local" issues. Very local most important and then >> > branching out in importance so that my level of compassion for those in >> > Darfur or Ethiopia and even Syria is near non-existant. I can't be >> > bothered. I'm more worried about improving my lot and believe you me I'm >> > getting a bit tired of hearing all about the troubles around the world >> > on >> > NPR with not NEAR enough attention being payed to our troubles at home. >> > All >> > that said I'm fully aware things are better here in America and even >> > better >> > here locally in the Houston area then they are most other places. Our >> > poor >> > are rich compared to other places. My knowledge of Britain is limited >> > but I >> > would assume it is much the same there. If you're poor and avoid the >> > drugs >> > you can live a pretty decent life and never have to work in our country. >> > I >> > don't see that as possible if we didn't grease the skids for the rich to >> > make more money. The trick is too give the new kids a chance to become >> > rich >> > as well. As you have noted this is becoming less likely due to Statism. >> > The >> > super wealthy are bribing their way to permanent dominance. They do this >> > by >> > influencing regulation. Makes me crazy every time some new regulation >> > that's suposed to "protect the consumer" does nothing of the sort. Lies >> > and >> > more lies. Still looking out for number One here. >> > >> > I do wish everyone else well however. Especially you and everyone else >> > on >> > this forum. Cheers all. >> > >> > dj >> > >> > >> > -The idea of taking on the burdens of the whole world scare me. We do >> > enough, too much really, already. I don't want a world government and >> > listening to Obama and Mrs. Clinton and pickyourUNdelegate that's what >> > they >> > all want and actively pursue. Speaking of Hillary has anyone else >> > noticed >> > she's looking rather.....medicated lately? Sleeping with Prince Valium >> > perhaps? Oxycotin maybe. Ah well, we all get older and I noticed I look >> > pretty shitty myself lately and all I abuse is caffeine. >> > >> > >> > >> > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:49AM +0100 >> > >> > Yes on you are right ,, the question is why are not >> > these bribers being prosecuted. >> > oh yes I for got almost all of congress is involved. including the >> > present >> > Republican Candidate. They have made him one of them and is solidly in >> > their pocket.. >> > Allan >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > |_D Allan >> > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> > >> > >> > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:53AM +0100 >> > >> > Neil I think it is important bring what the problems are in simple clear >> > statements instead of long and non rememberable statements. >> > What I do not understand in his statement is : Knowledge with out >> > Concience. >> > Allan >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > |_D Allan >> > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> > >> > >> > archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 05:25AM -0800 >> > >> > The lesson from science is that bullshit can be deconstructed to find >> > out what we might really base argument on. In economics this leaves >> > us with more or less nothing to say and people can't see that as a >> > benefit. Science is now showing that most people are so useless at >> > problem solving they can't do stuff orang-outangs can. With this kind >> > of 'ability' its perhaps not surprising we vote for GOP and the rest! >> > >> > >> > >> > rigsy03 <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:11AM -0800 >> > >> > It takes hard work to be/stay wealthy. >> > Define pleasure- individual or cultural. >> > Education builds character supposedly. >> > Define business versus huckterism. >> > Science is indifferent- can be good or evil. >> > What religion? >> > Politics has become a wasteful, dishonest game. >> > >> > Gandhi reintroduced home weaving, plus non-payment of taxes, general >> > strikes, non-violent demonstrations (satyagraha) and there was some >> > improvement- maybe strengthened by Indian participation in WWII for >> > the Brits...but was killed by a Hindu so the nation was not unified- >> > plus think of the slaughter in the partition- India and Pakistan- >> > which still is a thorny problem. The entire Middle East and North >> > Africa are a mess and very dangerous. The Green Zone may not last in >> > Iraq, for instance. Really- very stupid American policy since the Gulf >> > War or back to the 1840's for the Brits in Afghanistan (a total >> > wasteland). Good reads are The Blue Nile and The White Nile by Alan >> > Moorehead- or Something of Value by Robert Ruark (?). Anyway, I don >> > think the internet is going to solve humanity's problems- there is too >> > much smoldering resentment. What's our contribution? Weapon systems or >> > idiotic merchandise? Plus the displaced will flee to Europe and cause >> > more economic pressure, etc. I wonder if our goal is to destabilize >> > Russia and China? >> > >> > I am cooking Greek today- moussaka. A humble tribute. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 10:32AM -0800 >> > >> > Britain actually bombed Kabul as late as 1921 and prevented a secular >> > king who wanted to use the Turkish model to stabilise and modernise in >> > 1930. Science would seek to stabilise the population and provide a >> > war free environment for all. But most people won't make the effort >> > to understand. Gandhi ended up in some weird rationalisations of >> > sleeping with children to save the world through denial. >> > >> > >> > >> > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:53PM +0100 >> > >> > Don't go blaming the borders of Pakistan and India on Gandhi. that honor >> > belongs solely on the shoulders of a Brit,, I see nothing wrong with >> > home >> > weaving It helps the poor earn a living.. I have lost a lot of money >> > mainly to import problems.. so I could not receive my merchandise.. >> > these >> > items I ordered were hand made in homes.. which people made about $1 US >> > a >> > day making,, filling my orders,, yes I paid in advance so I was able to >> > make sure they could feed their families.. because the product could not >> > make it through customs. I am foolish I ate the financial loss. better >> > me >> > than the poor. >> > >> > indecently on simple interest of which is offered today.. I would be >> > making >> > some where between four and five times that I receive in retirement.. >> > would >> > you care to show where your money came from?? and how you worked hard to >> > make it??? and how you have to work hard to retain it? >> > >> > Yes a large contribution of the western and eastern countries to the >> > world >> > is weapons so they can make even more money from them and increase >> > poverty,, a great statement for advanced society isn't it.. >> > Allan >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > |_D Allan >> > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> > >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group >> > minds-eye. >> > You can post via email. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. >> > For more options, visit this group. >> > >> > >> > Nanook >> > [email protected] >> > >> > http://bit.ly/WordClay-nappi >> > http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/Nappi >> > http://A3society.org >> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/brucenappi >> > > > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > >
