It still is a clear case of self promotion Allan On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM, James Lynch <[email protected]> wrote:
> Heh, that too Allan, I've jabbed before jokingly and with Pat too. :) > At least it is interesting, the content is accessible and a bit > relevant. In that regard I consider it a resource. > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > what I see is a blatant promotion of his web site. As usual. > > Allan > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:53 AM, James Lynch <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Welcome back Nanook, one problem I see we have similar thoughts on is > >> that of laziness. I think tribes and communities evolved methods for > >> keeping members duly inspired and active in the community such that > >> providing some good is more rewarding than feeding the narcissist / > >> consumer role (dichotomy not intended just sarcasm). In our society > >> laziness is viewed as deviant or degenerate behavior unless one is > >> independently wealthy, I think it interesting how greatly this differs > >> for instance from how one would teach a child to develop positive self > >> respect/reliance/fulfillment/efficacy. I count the times people > >> condescend to explain the basic differences between children and > >> 'grown' adults to me, but those conversations lead to aggressive tones > >> about the 'bottom line' as though I have attacked some bedrock of > >> responsibility by discussing in large terms our massive social > >> problems. > >> > >> This does make me think more of Archytas' question of whether the > >> economy must be driven by libido. Would we even know what a morally > >> driven economy would look like? I don't mean the niche religious and > >> nonprofit sector, though that is growing. An example is when I think > >> about energy needs, one of my favorite projects is the massive solar > >> concentrator setup they put in the desert. If it costs slightly more > >> per kWh because people need to maintain the equipment I don't care so > >> much, it means jobs and an independent energy sector. It brings to > >> light a problem with society, as we seem to have no purpose or > >> identity in the modern era. Of course my unnamed opponent would nail > >> out a few bottom lines to define life by.. at the exhaustion of which > >> and with frustration, 'then why not just give up and die?'. And I > >> think, 'what a predicament, glad it's not mine!' > >> > >> Just got to "The failure of individualism" on SDS and Society, the > >> dissection of the seven deadly sins is very interesting and reads > >> comfortably/enjoyable. Very relevant indeed. > >> > >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Nanook <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > Sorry for not jumping in more often. Too much going on. But I think > the > >> > new > >> > discoveries I've made shed a lot of light on all of these points. So, > I > >> > suggest taking a look at my website: http://a3society.org and follow > up > >> > with > >> > the books if you read things you like. > >> > > >> > In short, as Don says, western society has failed to face up to human > >> > nature. Try reading my discussion > >> > at http://www.a3society.org/7%20Deadly%20Sins And, please note, the > >> > term 7 > >> > deadly sins was NOT originally a religious phrase. It was an ancient > >> > observation about human nature. Second, the discussions under the > >> > Language > >> > tab describe how the human process of learning language explain the > >> > circus > >> > we see in political campaigns. The Democracy and Government tabs > explain > >> > why > >> > governments are falling apart, and the pages on Plural Democracy and > >> > fixing > >> > democracy provide solutions. > >> > > >> > Unfortunately, the point Arcytas makes below about human not being > able > >> > to > >> > solve problems is so true. And the main culprits are the Single > Sentence > >> > Logic problem and the Multiple Religions Problem. Both are discussed > on > >> > the > >> > Language tab. > >> > > >> > Be well, > >> > > >> > Nanook > >> > > >> > On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:10 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> > > >> > Today's Topic Summary > >> > > >> > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye/topics > >> > > >> > Science and the modern economic plight [7 Updates] > >> > > >> > Science and the modern economic plight > >> > > >> > Don Johnson <[email protected]> Feb 09 11:31PM -0600 > >> > > >> > Ah arch, you are wallowing in frustration yet again. Kick that black > dog > >> > in > >> > the nads. The metaphorical one and not the happy, frolicking drooling > >> > one. That one you can scratch behind the ears. One day you must come > to > >> > terms with the simple fact that human beings are irrational and > selfish > >> > by > >> > nature. I hope I get a chance to read that article in the Economist > but > >> > since I'm well aware of our Statist direction here in the USA it > >> > probably > >> > won't hold much news for me. (plus I'm lazy and probably inept as > well) > >> > What makes the current situation easier for me to bear is I'm mostly > >> > concerned with only "local" issues. Very local most important and then > >> > branching out in importance so that my level of compassion for those > in > >> > Darfur or Ethiopia and even Syria is near non-existant. I can't be > >> > bothered. I'm more worried about improving my lot and believe you me > I'm > >> > getting a bit tired of hearing all about the troubles around the world > >> > on > >> > NPR with not NEAR enough attention being payed to our troubles at > home. > >> > All > >> > that said I'm fully aware things are better here in America and even > >> > better > >> > here locally in the Houston area then they are most other places. Our > >> > poor > >> > are rich compared to other places. My knowledge of Britain is limited > >> > but I > >> > would assume it is much the same there. If you're poor and avoid the > >> > drugs > >> > you can live a pretty decent life and never have to work in our > country. > >> > I > >> > don't see that as possible if we didn't grease the skids for the rich > to > >> > make more money. The trick is too give the new kids a chance to become > >> > rich > >> > as well. As you have noted this is becoming less likely due to > Statism. > >> > The > >> > super wealthy are bribing their way to permanent dominance. They do > this > >> > by > >> > influencing regulation. Makes me crazy every time some new regulation > >> > that's suposed to "protect the consumer" does nothing of the sort. > Lies > >> > and > >> > more lies. Still looking out for number One here. > >> > > >> > I do wish everyone else well however. Especially you and everyone else > >> > on > >> > this forum. Cheers all. > >> > > >> > dj > >> > > >> > > >> > -The idea of taking on the burdens of the whole world scare me. We do > >> > enough, too much really, already. I don't want a world government and > >> > listening to Obama and Mrs. Clinton and pickyourUNdelegate that's what > >> > they > >> > all want and actively pursue. Speaking of Hillary has anyone else > >> > noticed > >> > she's looking rather.....medicated lately? Sleeping with Prince Valium > >> > perhaps? Oxycotin maybe. Ah well, we all get older and I noticed I > look > >> > pretty shitty myself lately and all I abuse is caffeine. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:49AM +0100 > >> > > >> > Yes on you are right ,, the question is why are not > >> > these bribers being prosecuted. > >> > oh yes I for got almost all of congress is involved. including the > >> > present > >> > Republican Candidate. They have made him one of them and is solidly in > >> > their pocket.. > >> > Allan > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ( > >> > ) > >> > |_D Allan > >> > > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > >> > > >> > > >> > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 09:53AM +0100 > >> > > >> > Neil I think it is important bring what the problems are in simple > clear > >> > statements instead of long and non rememberable statements. > >> > What I do not understand in his statement is : Knowledge with out > >> > Concience. > >> > Allan > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ( > >> > ) > >> > |_D Allan > >> > > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > >> > > >> > > >> > archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 05:25AM -0800 > >> > > >> > The lesson from science is that bullshit can be deconstructed to find > >> > out what we might really base argument on. In economics this leaves > >> > us with more or less nothing to say and people can't see that as a > >> > benefit. Science is now showing that most people are so useless at > >> > problem solving they can't do stuff orang-outangs can. With this kind > >> > of 'ability' its perhaps not surprising we vote for GOP and the rest! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > rigsy03 <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:11AM -0800 > >> > > >> > It takes hard work to be/stay wealthy. > >> > Define pleasure- individual or cultural. > >> > Education builds character supposedly. > >> > Define business versus huckterism. > >> > Science is indifferent- can be good or evil. > >> > What religion? > >> > Politics has become a wasteful, dishonest game. > >> > > >> > Gandhi reintroduced home weaving, plus non-payment of taxes, general > >> > strikes, non-violent demonstrations (satyagraha) and there was some > >> > improvement- maybe strengthened by Indian participation in WWII for > >> > the Brits...but was killed by a Hindu so the nation was not unified- > >> > plus think of the slaughter in the partition- India and Pakistan- > >> > which still is a thorny problem. The entire Middle East and North > >> > Africa are a mess and very dangerous. The Green Zone may not last in > >> > Iraq, for instance. Really- very stupid American policy since the Gulf > >> > War or back to the 1840's for the Brits in Afghanistan (a total > >> > wasteland). Good reads are The Blue Nile and The White Nile by Alan > >> > Moorehead- or Something of Value by Robert Ruark (?). Anyway, I don > >> > think the internet is going to solve humanity's problems- there is too > >> > much smoldering resentment. What's our contribution? Weapon systems or > >> > idiotic merchandise? Plus the displaced will flee to Europe and cause > >> > more economic pressure, etc. I wonder if our goal is to destabilize > >> > Russia and China? > >> > > >> > I am cooking Greek today- moussaka. A humble tribute. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > archytas <[email protected]> Feb 10 10:32AM -0800 > >> > > >> > Britain actually bombed Kabul as late as 1921 and prevented a secular > >> > king who wanted to use the Turkish model to stabilise and modernise in > >> > 1930. Science would seek to stabilise the population and provide a > >> > war free environment for all. But most people won't make the effort > >> > to understand. Gandhi ended up in some weird rationalisations of > >> > sleeping with children to save the world through denial. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Allan H <[email protected]> Feb 10 07:53PM +0100 > >> > > >> > Don't go blaming the borders of Pakistan and India on Gandhi. that > honor > >> > belongs solely on the shoulders of a Brit,, I see nothing wrong with > >> > home > >> > weaving It helps the poor earn a living.. I have lost a lot of money > >> > mainly to import problems.. so I could not receive my merchandise.. > >> > these > >> > items I ordered were hand made in homes.. which people made about $1 > US > >> > a > >> > day making,, filling my orders,, yes I paid in advance so I was able > to > >> > make sure they could feed their families.. because the product could > not > >> > make it through customs. I am foolish I ate the financial loss. better > >> > me > >> > than the poor. > >> > > >> > indecently on simple interest of which is offered today.. I would be > >> > making > >> > some where between four and five times that I receive in retirement.. > >> > would > >> > you care to show where your money came from?? and how you worked hard > to > >> > make it??? and how you have to work hard to retain it? > >> > > >> > Yes a large contribution of the western and eastern countries to the > >> > world > >> > is weapons so they can make even more money from them and increase > >> > poverty,, a great statement for advanced society isn't it.. > >> > Allan > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ( > >> > ) > >> > |_D Allan > >> > > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > >> > > >> > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Group > >> > minds-eye. > >> > You can post via email. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. > >> > For more options, visit this group. > >> > > >> > > >> > Nanook > >> > [email protected] > >> > > >> > http://bit.ly/WordClay-nappi > >> > http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/Nappi > >> > http://A3society.org > >> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/brucenappi > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > |_D Allan > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > > > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
