I agree the analysis in part Andrew - and it's an important one. I don't see an agrarian solution
On 11 Nov, 11:26, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Rigsy If I could not build on a floodplain my home would be 2 > meters below sea level.. What you need to do is know how to control > the flooding protecting the people while allowing the floods to renew > the soil. ocean fronts I agree with you.. > Allan > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:32 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Forbid building on flood plains and ocean fronts. You will have to > > redistribute the population also. > > > On Nov 11, 3:01 am, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The solution to all this mess is to abandon the misled scientists, the > >> harmful engineers and the speculating marketeers and to return to nature > >> and organic farming embodying ecological principles that are sustainable > >> and have been sustained for billions of years. Return farms from corporate > >> chemical farmers with their monocultures back to family run farms. Turn the > >> super markets back into farmer markets. The game that values profits > >> higher than democracy, human rights and environmental protection must be > >> abandoned in order to survive. > > >> On Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:57:20 AM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > >> > There has been fears of over population for centuries now.. you have > >> > only pointed to problems that are already well know. At the same time > >> > I do not read any possible soutions. > > >> > How are the problems solved realistically or not realistic manner.. > >> > you never know where the solution comes from. > >> > Allan > > >> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM, andrew vecsey > >> > <[email protected]<javascript:>> > >> > wrote: > >> > > Just as nature abhors a vacuum, tearing down anything too big, too > >> > > high, > >> > and > >> > > diluting anything too concentrated, globalization is a threat to > >> > mankind. > >> > > See YouTube video "Globalization, Simplified" > > >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH41I-4uD-E&list=UU9rOAPUfZe3KEja0vvFp... > > >> > > Text of Video > > >> > > While the population is exponentially exploding, the earth housing them > >> > is > >> > > exponentially shrinking. It is as easy to travel and communicate across > >> > the > >> > > globe today as it was across the neighborhood a century ago. This > >> > > opens > >> > the > >> > > doors up wide to globalization and forces everyone to play the same > >> > game. > >> > > Instead of giving the weak and poor players an advantage to make the > >> > game > >> > > more fair and meaningful, the playing field is leveled ensuring that > >> > > the > >> > > strong and wealthy players become unbeatable. > > >> > > Money, the measure of value of the goods and services traded, has > >> > > turned > >> > > into a rubber band measuring tape that can be and is stretched and > >> > shrunk by > >> > > greedy speculators seeking short term profits. This causes great long > >> > term > >> > > suffering and sickening hardships. To ease the sufferings and > >> > temporarily > >> > > cover up illnesses, pharma industry churns out pills for all ills to > >> > those > >> > > who could afford them. > > >> > > The media has become the massage and its deafening message is to > >> > consume. > >> > > Those few who control the media have hijacked values and brainwashed > >> > people > >> > > into satisfying their short term addictive wants ahead of their long > >> > term > >> > > needs. > > >> > > When the criminal sectors who specialize in dealing with drugs, arms > >> > > and > >> > > slaves are globalized, they easily recruit the desperate poor to do the > >> > > dirty work for them and hire politicians to cover up all that dirt. The > >> > then > >> > > use greedy banksters to launder their dirty money clean of any traces > >> > > of > >> > > stains. > > >> > > Visions have become impaired by short sightedness and blinded by > >> > brilliant > >> > > flashes of seductive images. Companies with their narrow fields of > >> > interests > >> > > follow principles and pursue goals that are unsustainable. They grow > >> > until > >> > > they are “too big to fail or nail” and end up being corporate welfare > >> > cases > >> > > supported and subsidized by the poor masses. > > >> > > Biotechnology dressed up as green and gene revolutionaries promise to > >> > save > >> > > hungry people from starvation. Like the communists and the global > >> > > capitalists, they are corrupt at heart as their sole interest is > >> > > accumulating wealth for themselves. The scientists and the politicians > >> > > representing them are easily bought and mislead. Instead of feeding an > >> > > overpopulated world, they are killing the soil and enslaving the people > >> > into > >> > > a dependance on the food they process. They enrich the impoverished > >> > foods > >> > > with chemicals and color and package them in expensive attractive boxes > >> > to > >> > > make them look fresh. Then they transport the foods thousands of > >> > kilometers > >> > > in polluting trucks to the supermarkets for the gullible hungry masses > >> > who > >> > > line up like sheep to buy them. > > >> > > Most innovations in food biotechnology are profit driven rather than > >> > need > >> > > driven. Agro-industry ruins the soil, perpetuates social injustice and > >> > > endangers the ecological balance in our environment. Depleted soils are > >> > > infused with chemical fertilizers and monocultures are sprayed with > >> > ever > >> > > increasing and ever powerful poisons. This practice favours large > >> > corporate > >> > > farms who could afford this expensive technology and forces most of the > >> > > traditional single-family farmers to abandon their lands. > > >> > > Plants are genetically modified to be resistant to a specific toxin > >> > which > >> > > kills all other plants. Crops are genetically modified with “terminal” > >> > genes > >> > > making their seeds infertile and making the farmers dependent on having > >> > to > >> > > buy seeds each year for the next year`s harvests. The bees, needed to > >> > > fertilize seeds of all other naturally grown plants are slowly killed > >> > off > >> > > with these practices, placing all of nature in a very critical > >> > situation. > >> > > The manufacturers of these plants with terminal genes however find > >> > > themselves in a very lucrative monopoly controlling the entire world`s > >> > food > >> > > supply. > > >> > > The reasons people go hungry are political and not technical, with the > >> > > greedy rich and powerful controlling the production and distribution of > >> > > their food. What life science corporations have in common is a narrow > >> > > understanding of life based on the erroneous belief that nature can be > >> > > subjected to human control. With powerful lobbying tactics, they have > >> > bought > >> > > and convinced politicians to allow patenting of life forms. Patents, > >> > making > >> > > life into a commodity to be bought and sold at the highest price, are > >> > given > >> > > to sequences of DNA codes that life wrote for all of nature. By > >> > depleting > >> > > natural resources and reducing the planet's biodiversity, the very > >> > fabric of > >> > > life on which everybody's well being depends on are damaged. > > >> > > The solution to all this mess is to abandon the misled scientists, the > >> > > harmful engineers and the speculating marketeers and to return to > >> > > nature > >> > and > >> > > organic farming embodying ecological principles that are sustainable > >> > > and > >> > > have been sustained for billions of years. Return farms from corporate > >> > > chemical farmers with their monocultures back to family run farms. Turn > >> > the > >> > > super markets back into farmer markets. The game that values profits > >> > higher > >> > > than democracy, human rights and environmental protection must be > >> > abandoned > >> > > in order to survive. > > >> > > Just as nature abhors a vacuum, she tears down anything too big, too > >> > high, > >> > > and dilutes anything too concentrated. > > >> > > -- > > >> > -- > >> > ( > >> > ) > >> > |_D Allan > > >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > >> > I am a Natural Airgunner - > > >> > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > I am a Natural Airgunner - > > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. --
