Israel has been very successful with greenhouse agriculture. A nearby restaurant contracted with local homeowners to grow some fresh produce which might catch on. I consider the labor and high water usage a negative, however.
On Nov 11, 5:23 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think that will work,, I think your solution would result in > wide spread famine world wide though the chemical farmers are not the > best solution they are not the worst either from supermarkets to > farmers markets would again result in wide spread hunger and famine.. > corporations have the ability to preserve food and spread it trough > out the world where it is needed.. one of the problems is > distribution .. and production.. at one time I owned approximately > 200 hectors of land could grow wheat on some of it and grass that was > about it.. the other was so let me put it my best crops were rocks.. > Dad and I built a house out of them.. > > Using today's technology if we created a vertical green house (my dad > and I discussed it some 40 - 45 years ago) of creating a vertical > green house.. My father's knowledge was the most advance in > hydroponics there still was a lot lacking and he continued to do > research.. > > But Andrew instead of using all of our land to maybe poorly feed 50.. > with today's technology using a vertical green house we could easily > feed 50,000 people in and ecologically friendly manner ,, that would > include providing protein other than vegetables. > > Stepping backwards is not a solution. > Allan > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The solution to all this mess is to abandon the misled scientists, the > > harmful engineers and the speculating marketeers and to return to nature and > > organic farming embodying ecological principles that are sustainable and > > have been sustained for billions of years. Return farms from corporate > > chemical farmers with their monocultures back to family run farms. Turn the > > super markets back into farmer markets. The game that values profits higher > > than democracy, human rights and environmental protection must be abandoned > > in order to survive. > > > On Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:57:20 AM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > >> There has been fears of over population for centuries now.. you have > >> only pointed to problems that are already well know. At the same time > >> I do not read any possible soutions. > > >> How are the problems solved realistically or not realistic manner.. > >> you never know where the solution comes from. > >> Allan > > >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Just as nature abhors a vacuum, tearing down anything too big, too high, > >> > and > >> > diluting anything too concentrated, globalization is a threat to > >> > mankind. > >> > See YouTube video "Globalization, Simplified" > > >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH41I-4uD-E&list=UU9rOAPUfZe3KEja0vvFp... > > >> > Text of Video > > >> > While the population is exponentially exploding, the earth housing them > >> > is > >> > exponentially shrinking. It is as easy to travel and communicate across > >> > the > >> > globe today as it was across the neighborhood a century ago. This opens > >> > the > >> > doors up wide to globalization and forces everyone to play the same > >> > game. > >> > Instead of giving the weak and poor players an advantage to make the > >> > game > >> > more fair and meaningful, the playing field is leveled ensuring that the > >> > strong and wealthy players become unbeatable. > > >> > Money, the measure of value of the goods and services traded, has turned > >> > into a rubber band measuring tape that can be and is stretched and > >> > shrunk by > >> > greedy speculators seeking short term profits. This causes great long > >> > term > >> > suffering and sickening hardships. To ease the sufferings and > >> > temporarily > >> > cover up illnesses, pharma industry churns out pills for all ills to > >> > those > >> > who could afford them. > > >> > The media has become the massage and its deafening message is to > >> > consume. > >> > Those few who control the media have hijacked values and brainwashed > >> > people > >> > into satisfying their short term addictive wants ahead of their long > >> > term > >> > needs. > > >> > When the criminal sectors who specialize in dealing with drugs, arms and > >> > slaves are globalized, they easily recruit the desperate poor to do the > >> > dirty work for them and hire politicians to cover up all that dirt. The > >> > then > >> > use greedy banksters to launder their dirty money clean of any traces of > >> > stains. > > >> > Visions have become impaired by short sightedness and blinded by > >> > brilliant > >> > flashes of seductive images. Companies with their narrow fields of > >> > interests > >> > follow principles and pursue goals that are unsustainable. They grow > >> > until > >> > they are “too big to fail or nail” and end up being corporate welfare > >> > cases > >> > supported and subsidized by the poor masses. > > >> > Biotechnology dressed up as green and gene revolutionaries promise to > >> > save > >> > hungry people from starvation. Like the communists and the global > >> > capitalists, they are corrupt at heart as their sole interest is > >> > accumulating wealth for themselves. The scientists and the politicians > >> > representing them are easily bought and mislead. Instead of feeding an > >> > overpopulated world, they are killing the soil and enslaving the people > >> > into > >> > a dependance on the food they process. They enrich the impoverished > >> > foods > >> > with chemicals and color and package them in expensive attractive boxes > >> > to > >> > make them look fresh. Then they transport the foods thousands of > >> > kilometers > >> > in polluting trucks to the supermarkets for the gullible hungry masses > >> > who > >> > line up like sheep to buy them. > > >> > Most innovations in food biotechnology are profit driven rather than > >> > need > >> > driven. Agro-industry ruins the soil, perpetuates social injustice and > >> > endangers the ecological balance in our environment. Depleted soils are > >> > infused with chemical fertilizers and monocultures are sprayed with > >> > ever > >> > increasing and ever powerful poisons. This practice favours large > >> > corporate > >> > farms who could afford this expensive technology and forces most of the > >> > traditional single-family farmers to abandon their lands. > > >> > Plants are genetically modified to be resistant to a specific toxin > >> > which > >> > kills all other plants. Crops are genetically modified with “terminal” > >> > genes > >> > making their seeds infertile and making the farmers dependent on having > >> > to > >> > buy seeds each year for the next year`s harvests. The bees, needed to > >> > fertilize seeds of all other naturally grown plants are slowly killed > >> > off > >> > with these practices, placing all of nature in a very critical > >> > situation. > >> > The manufacturers of these plants with terminal genes however find > >> > themselves in a very lucrative monopoly controlling the entire world`s > >> > food > >> > supply. > > >> > The reasons people go hungry are political and not technical, with the > >> > greedy rich and powerful controlling the production and distribution of > >> > their food. What life science corporations have in common is a narrow > >> > understanding of life based on the erroneous belief that nature can be > >> > subjected to human control. With powerful lobbying tactics, they have > >> > bought > >> > and convinced politicians to allow patenting of life forms. Patents, > >> > making > >> > life into a commodity to be bought and sold at the highest price, are > >> > given > >> > to sequences of DNA codes that life wrote for all of nature. By > >> > depleting > >> > natural resources and reducing the planet's biodiversity, the very > >> > fabric of > >> > life on which everybody's well being depends on are damaged. > > >> > The solution to all this mess is to abandon the misled scientists, the > >> > harmful engineers and the speculating marketeers and to return to nature > >> > and > >> > organic farming embodying ecological principles that are sustainable and > >> > have been sustained for billions of years. Return farms from corporate > >> > chemical farmers with their monocultures back to family run farms. Turn > >> > the > >> > super markets back into farmer markets. The game that values profits > >> > higher > >> > than democracy, human rights and environmental protection must be > >> > abandoned > >> > in order to survive. > > >> > Just as nature abhors a vacuum, she tears down anything too big, too > >> > high, > >> > and dilutes anything too concentrated. > > >> > -- > > >> -- > >> ( > >> ) > >> |_D Allan > > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > >> I am a Natural Airgunner - > > >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > > > -- > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > I am a Natural Airgunner - > > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --
