Which leads to over-compensation and a new prejudice often/sometimes. My maternal history spanned biblicals but somehow I was able to be mostly a stay-at-home mom which even the children were grateful for and I hope to revive some of those skills with my grand-daughters as change is on the way. I have truly missed family this last dozen years. But I do see the additional stress on young women trying to juggle all those "hats"- I even felt jealous of men dashing off to their office when I had toddlers plus business on my mind.
On Dec 6, 4:24 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > My own feeling on the work side of equality is we have to do too much > of it and that there is, in fact, plenty of time in a 40 year work > span for ten years off to deal with early child carrying and nurture > (or alternatives). We are trying to establish equality in an already > misunderstood and warped system. > > On 5 Dec, 00:39, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Actually, where I am going to is economics and job creation since > > women are now equal in western countries and have embraced working > > outside the home or must be a co-bread-winner due to the cost of > > living. Plus all must compete with the machine and technology or > > competitive foreign labor. There are dozens of side issues such as > > longer life spans, over-population, impact of financial and government > > mismanagement, etc.//I tend to view the two sexes as a reader/failed > > writer- as types through history and am not very sentimental though > > culture continues to send mixed messages even currently.//It's lovely > > that you had such a positive experience with your own family despite > > Tolstoy thinking happy families were all alike and possibly not > > interesting to him as a writer. I think them fortunate although I > > suppose there is a sense of quest and heroic attempts for those less > > blessed that warms the soul.//Frankly, the Duchess is reminding me of > > how ill I was with my first pregnancy with no tlc or hospital- finally > > my mother-in-law had to take charge. Also another thing- my kind > > neighbor laughing he was glad he wasn't a woman after his daughter-in > > law's very difficult/dangerous labor (over 2 days) and delivery. Don't > > worry- I bit my tongue. > > > On Dec 4, 4:11 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > My Mum and elder sister were pretty strong characters and it never > > > really crossed my mind to treat anyone with other than the respect I > > > felt for them. I see where you re coming from rigs. The repression > > > is ongoing in some minds and reality around the world. We are just > > > changing our gender bias in 'heir to the throne rankings' so that > > > female children get equal place. Quite why we haven't worked out the > > > real issue has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with > > > throwing out the Royals I don't know. If the gender-free inheritance > > > rules had pertained 100 years before WW1 the British King in 1914 > > > would have been - er - Kaiser Wilhelm! > > > There clearly are women's issues (men's, gays etc.) - and I doubt they > > > can or should be exclusively derived 'within gender' or sub-classes - > > > though this doesn't preclude groups talking the stuff through on such > > > a basis. I tend to think there has been progress, but I'm not sure > > > how this has come about, if it has. > > > > On 4 Dec, 04:01, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks.// I think your reaction can be traced back to the time when > > > > men were considered the main/only source of security so women were > > > > more likely to protect that; it really is more complicated, however. > > > > Earlier homesteading and farming offered a different balance- a very > > > > important role for the female that gave her a natural or necessary > > > > equality. But younger couples are working on a balance, as I see it.// > > > > Was going to bring Hesiod into the mix as he set out a horrid > > > > description of females in the "Theogeny" (IX, 507-616), written in 8 > > > > B.C.. I vaguely remember the professor saying he probably was an ugly > > > > farmer who was spurned by women so he took his revenge. But given the > > > > date, it is close to the Eden story. Another work came to mind written > > > > in the 1950's that I have poked around- "America As A Civilization" by > > > > Max Lerner- particularly Chapter VIII/Section 6- "The Ordeal of the > > > > American Woman" which captures some of what I was looking for in way > > > > of explanation for my parent's generation. I think he captured it- for > > > > a man. :-) > > > > > On Dec 3, 8:34 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Your new account is off moderation rigsy. I've always been struck > > > > > that women talking and acting for themselves are not reflected in the > > > > > literature and that some of the characters most dangerous to equal > > > > > opportunity are female. > > > > > > On 2 Dec, 06:27, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 1, 2012 10:30:37 AM UTC-6, archytas wrote: > > > > > > > The Body Class and Work Disability Discrimination Equality of > > > > > > > Opportunity Identity Politics Multiculturalism Objectification > > > > > > > Parenthood and Procreation Power Race Rape Reproduction and the > > > > > > > Family Science The Self Sex and Gender Sex Markets Trans Issues > > > > > > > These are just some of the topics I thought I could put forward > > > > > > > in teaching gender issues in management. They underlie the bland > > > > > > > politically correct policy matters. One thing has always occurred > > > > > > > to me as missing in every debate I can remember. Women are as bad > > > > > > > as men as managers. I equate equality with hospitality (always > > > > > > > two-sided at least) and suspect we don't realise behaviour is > > > > > > > much less to do with gender or the individual than we think and > > > > > > > perhaps has little to do with rationality. I don't think we see > > > > > > > the wood for the trees on gender. > > > > > > > How unlike anything EVER mentioned to me as a girl or young woman. > > > > > > I suppose we depended on family tradition, religion and etiquette > > > > > > as we were groomed for marriage via mystery, motherhood and > > > > > > homemaking. Groomed, indeed!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --
