I must admit to being puzzled by such a product. Personaly I like my hads to smell like chili after makeing a curry! On Thursday, 6 December 2012 08:15:06 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > it is not for cleaning hands ,, it just gets rid of smell that you > can not get rid of no matter how much you wash.. you just wash after > youor hands are clean,, then the smell is gone. > Allan > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:27 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]<javascript:>> > wrote: > > Hm, I have never thought of using a steel soap bar for cleaning my > hands. I > > use it occasionally for my pots and pans. And for the more difficult > dirt on > > my hands I use a pumice stone or lemon. And more and more often I wear > > gloves or buy frozen and precut garlic and onion. But thanks for the > tip. > > I'm sure that one day I'll make use of it. Why not steel instead of > stone, > > you're right. > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:54:42 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > >> > >> Well actually Gabby I have this stainless steel soap bar used for > >> getting rid of ordure off your hands things like onion, Garlic ,, > >> any strong ordure ,, just tried it on the epoxy smell left over from > >> fixing my maxi egg coddler. > >> > >> now one of the greatest mysteries of the universe,, how does it work? > >> Allan > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:38 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > The pointlessness of the points' business. Like Lee, I find the God > >> > concept > >> > much more to the point. :) > >> > > >> > I don't follow Lee's sequencing model - first spirit, then matter - > >> > though. > >> > This sounds very man-made to me. ;) > >> > > >> > As for the storytelling aspect, yes, the Chronos story is much more > >> > vivid > >> > than the "God created (x) and saw it was good" story. That's true. > But > >> > the > >> > children are less likely to have bad dreams at night. Which is really > >> > good. > >> > > >> > Sorry, Allan, I got carried away. What were you talking about? > >> > > >> > > >> > 2012/12/4 Allan H <[email protected]> > >> >> > >> >> a series of creation is at best a wild guess with no supporting > >> >> evidence.. > >> >> Allan > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:42 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > You can pinpoint the beginning of this universe but not that of > >> >> > Creation with its series of universes. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> That is not true the beginning can be pretty much pinpointed .. > as > >> >> >> for > >> >> >> parallel universes that is just a wild guess with nothing to > support > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> other than it sounds good. There is more evidence supporting the > >> >> >> spiritual > >> >> >> realm than parallel universes > >> >> >> Allan > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2012 2:26 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> In my view there is no beginning to creation. There is beginning > >> >> >>> and > >> >> >>> end to universes There are infinite no. of universes in parallel > >> >> >>> and > >> >> >>> continuously many universes are being born and many are dying , > >> >> >>> but > >> >> >>> Creation which includes infinite universes in eternal time , > just > >> >> >>> like > >> >> >>> the Spirit, is without beginning and without end. The difference > is > >> >> >>> that the nature of creation is dualistic and the Spirit is > >> >> >>> non-dual. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > >> >> >>> wrote: > >> >> >>> > Hello Andrew, > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > Heh I can envisage many things, but alas many of them are not > >> >> >>> > true. > >> >> >>> > I > >> >> >>> > distinguish between two things, matter and spirit. Mattter is > >> >> >>> > all > >> >> >>> > that > >> >> >>> > is > >> >> >>> > physical, which includes physical 'matter' and also energy. > To > >> >> >>> > me > >> >> >>> > there > >> >> >>> > is > >> >> >>> > no paradox of who created the creator. Before the begining > there > >> >> >>> > was > >> >> >>> > only > >> >> >>> > God, God in spirit, and God created the creation out of the > spirt > >> >> >>> > of > >> >> >>> > God. > >> >> >>> > That is all matter comes from spirit. > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > On Friday, 30 November 2012 18:32:43 UTC, andrew vecsey wrote: > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> Lee, I can see where all matter has to have an energy > component > >> >> >>> >> to > >> >> >>> >> it > >> >> >>> >> because matter is manifested as atoms which have motion in > them. > >> >> >>> >> But I > >> >> >>> >> could > >> >> >>> >> also envision pure motion without involving any atoms...like > a > >> >> >>> >> vibration in > >> >> >>> >> the fabric of space, > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> On Friday, November 30, 2012 5:53:26 PM UTC+1, Lee Douglas > >> >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>> Heh except of course that when it comes right down to > it.energy > >> >> >>> >>> is > >> >> >>> >>> matter > >> >> >>> >>> and matter is energy. > >> >> >>> >>> On Friday, 30 November 2012 11:22:14 UTC, andrew vecsey > wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> The paradoxical dilemma of who created the creator can be > >> >> >>> >>>> circumnavigated by the possibility that the original > creator > >> >> >>> >>>> was > >> >> >>> >>>> not > >> >> >>> >>>> matter, > >> >> >>> >>>> but energy. Just like thinking of anything is much faster > and > >> >> >>> >>>> much > >> >> >>> >>>> easier > >> >> >>> >>>> than building it, it becomes conceivable that energy > patterns > >> >> >>> >>>> could > >> >> >>> >>>> have > >> >> >>> >>>> evolved in a random chance way and finely tuned by > selective > >> >> >>> >>>> processes to > >> >> >>> >>>> reach intelligence similar to how most scientists believe > that > >> >> >>> >>>> patterns of > >> >> >>> >>>> atoms and molecules evolved to form intelligent life. > >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> Energy patterns could have evolved to a point that they > >> >> >>> >>>> manipulated > >> >> >>> >>>> atoms to desired patterns and forms to code the information > >> >> >>> >>>> required > >> >> >>> >>>> for > >> >> >>> >>>> life and to allow them to evolve on their own to complex > >> >> >>> >>>> intelligent > >> >> >>> >>>> beings > >> >> >>> >>>> able to wonder at and eventually to solve the riddle of > where > >> >> >>> >>>> they > >> >> >>> >>>> came > >> >> >>> >>>> from, where they are going and why they are alive. Meaning > and > >> >> >>> >>>> purpose could > >> >> >>> >>>> then be given to our fleeting moment of existence. > >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> On Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:55:05 PM UTC+1, archytas > >> >> >>> >>>> wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>> ....... All we have in respect of this is to posit > >> >> >>> >>>>> creation, begging the question of what created that in an > >> >> >>> >>>>> infinite > >> >> >>> >>>>> regress. .....We might get to an intelligent state in > which > >> >> >>> >>>>> creation > >> >> >>> >>>>> myths are replaced by something more plausible and Truth > >> >> >>> >>>>> comes > >> >> >>> >>>>> closer. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> >>> >>>>> On 29 Nov, 01:41, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>> > Neil , even after re-transposition how long could the > brain > >> >> >>> >>>>> > live > >> >> >>> >>>>> > --1000 years , 10000years or maybe as long as the > universe > >> >> >>> >>>>> > ,but > >> >> >>> >>>>> > ultimately it will die or be destroyed at the end - time > of > >> >> >>> >>>>> > the > >> >> >>> >>>>> > universe. What survives is the Truth behind life and > >> >> >>> >>>>> > nothing > >> >> >>> >>>>> > else. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:33 AM, archytas > >> >> >>> >>>>> > <[email protected]> > >> >> >>> >>>>> > wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > What survives is the gene - subject to mutations etc. > We > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > are > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > already > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > 'Borg' in the sense of mass assimilation. One's mind > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > could > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > be > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > transposed to another substrate (nearish future) - our > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > bodies > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > are > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > currently replaced every 5 years or so- and the new > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > substrate > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > could > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > have nanobots that would allow minds to outlive Lee's > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > 'hope'. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > Such > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > substrated minds might link in super-intelligence and > be > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > able to > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > re- > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > transfer into more human-like bodies they learned to > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > make. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > This > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > would > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > be a time beyond singularity. We don't know what such > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > intelligence > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > might invent or even discover - perhaps such > intelligence > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > would > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > discover we are not as alone as we think. Being human > or > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > human > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > being > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > might be as irrelevant as a mitochondria wanting to > live > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > free > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > again. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > We might be free of the tiny machines (genes) so much > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > part > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > of > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > our > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > behaviour now. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > On 28 Nov, 14:40, Allan H <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> T9 grrrrrrr > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> Allan > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> On Nov 28, 2012 11:38 AM, "gabbydott" > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > Ah! That's the extended version of 'possibly maybe' > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > then > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > (my > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > grammar and > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > spelling checker suggests 10 instead of 'then' > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > though)! > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > :) > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > 2012/11/28 James <[email protected]> > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> I am an aspect of what was, is, and will be, > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> coextensively. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> Maybe. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> On 11/27/2012 2:28 AM, RP Singh wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> Attachment to life is the cause of the desire for > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> immortality > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> and the > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> readiness to believe in an after-life or > re-birth. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> It > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> is an > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> off-shoot of > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> the instinct for survival. > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> -- > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> -- > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > -- > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > -- > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > -- > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> -- > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> ( > >> >> ) > >> >> |_D Allan > >> >> > >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I am a Natural Airgunner - > >> >> > >> >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ( > >> ) > >> |_D Allan > >> > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > >> > >> > >> I am a Natural Airgunner - > >> > >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > I am a Natural Airgunner - > > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. >
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