That is the strange thing  it gets rid of the lingering smells..
how,, no idea..
Allan

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I must admit to being puzzled by such a product.  Personaly I like my hads
> to smell like chili after makeing a curry!
>
> On Thursday, 6 December 2012 08:15:06 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> it is not for cleaning hands  ,,  it just gets rid of smell that you
>> can not get rid of no matter how much you wash..  you just wash after
>> youor hands are clean,,  then the smell is gone.
>> Allan
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:27 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hm, I have never thought of using a steel soap bar for cleaning my
>> > hands. I
>> > use it occasionally for my pots and pans. And for the more difficult
>> > dirt on
>> > my hands I use a pumice stone or lemon. And more and more often I wear
>> > gloves or buy frozen and precut garlic and onion. But thanks for the
>> > tip.
>> > I'm sure that one day I'll make use of it. Why not steel instead of
>> > stone,
>> > you're right.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:54:42 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well actually Gabby  I have this stainless steel soap bar used for
>> >> getting rid of ordure off your hands   things like onion, Garlic ,,
>> >> any strong ordure ,,   just tried it on the epoxy smell left over from
>> >> fixing my maxi egg coddler.
>> >>
>> >> now one of the greatest mysteries of the universe,,  how does it work?
>> >> Allan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:38 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > The pointlessness of the points' business. Like Lee, I find the God
>> >> > concept
>> >> > much more to the point. :)
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't follow Lee's sequencing model - first spirit, then matter -
>> >> > though.
>> >> > This sounds very man-made to me. ;)
>> >> >
>> >> > As for the storytelling aspect, yes, the Chronos story is much more
>> >> > vivid
>> >> > than the "God created (x) and saw it was good" story. That's true.
>> >> > But
>> >> > the
>> >> > children are less likely to have bad dreams at night. Which is really
>> >> > good.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry, Allan, I got carried away. What were you talking about?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2012/12/4 Allan H <[email protected]>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> a series of creation is at best a wild guess with no supporting
>> >> >> evidence..
>> >> >> Allan
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:42 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> > You can pinpoint the beginning of this universe but not that of
>> >> >> > Creation with its series of universes.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Allan H <[email protected]>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> That is not true  the beginning can be pretty much pinpointed ..
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> parallel universes that is just a wild guess with nothing to
>> >> >> >> support
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> other than it sounds good.  There is more evidence supporting the
>> >> >> >> spiritual
>> >> >> >> realm than parallel universes
>> >> >> >> Allan
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Matrix  **  th3 beginning light
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2012 2:26 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> In my view there is no beginning to creation. There is beginning
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> end to universes There are infinite no. of universes in parallel
>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >> >>> continuously many  universes are being born and many are dying ,
>> >> >> >>> but
>> >> >> >>> Creation which includes infinite universes in eternal time ,
>> >> >> >>> just
>> >> >> >>> like
>> >> >> >>> the Spirit, is without beginning and without end. The difference
>> >> >> >>> is
>> >> >> >>> that the nature of creation is dualistic and the Spirit is
>> >> >> >>> non-dual.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Lee Douglas
>> >> >> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> > Hello Andrew,
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > Heh I can envisage many things, but alas many of them are not
>> >> >> >>> > true.
>> >> >> >>> > I
>> >> >> >>> > distinguish between two things, matter and spirit.  Mattter is
>> >> >> >>> > all
>> >> >> >>> > that
>> >> >> >>> > is
>> >> >> >>> > physical, which includes physical 'matter' and also energy.
>> >> >> >>> > To
>> >> >> >>> > me
>> >> >> >>> > there
>> >> >> >>> > is
>> >> >> >>> > no paradox of who created the creator.  Before the begining
>> >> >> >>> > there
>> >> >> >>> > was
>> >> >> >>> > only
>> >> >> >>> > God, God in spirit, and God created the creation out of the
>> >> >> >>> > spirt
>> >> >> >>> > of
>> >> >> >>> > God.
>> >> >> >>> > That is all matter comes from spirit.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > On Friday, 30 November 2012 18:32:43 UTC, andrew vecsey wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> Lee, I can see where all matter has to have an energy
>> >> >> >>> >> component
>> >> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >> >>> >> it
>> >> >> >>> >> because matter is manifested as atoms which have motion in
>> >> >> >>> >> them.
>> >> >> >>> >> But I
>> >> >> >>> >> could
>> >> >> >>> >> also envision pure motion without involving any atoms...like
>> >> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >> >>> >> vibration in
>> >> >> >>> >> the fabric of space,
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> On Friday, November 30, 2012 5:53:26 PM UTC+1, Lee Douglas
>> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >>> Heh except of course that when it comes right down to
>> >> >> >>> >>> it.energy
>> >> >> >>> >>> is
>> >> >> >>> >>> matter
>> >> >> >>> >>> and matter is energy.
>> >> >> >>> >>> On Friday, 30 November 2012 11:22:14 UTC, andrew vecsey
>> >> >> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>> The paradoxical dilemma of who created the creator can be
>> >> >> >>> >>>> circumnavigated by the possibility that the original
>> >> >> >>> >>>> creator
>> >> >> >>> >>>> was
>> >> >> >>> >>>> not
>> >> >> >>> >>>> matter,
>> >> >> >>> >>>> but energy. Just like thinking of anything is much faster
>> >> >> >>> >>>> and
>> >> >> >>> >>>> much
>> >> >> >>> >>>> easier
>> >> >> >>> >>>> than building it, it becomes conceivable that energy
>> >> >> >>> >>>> patterns
>> >> >> >>> >>>> could
>> >> >> >>> >>>> have
>> >> >> >>> >>>> evolved in a random chance way and finely tuned by
>> >> >> >>> >>>> selective
>> >> >> >>> >>>> processes to
>> >> >> >>> >>>> reach intelligence similar to how most scientists believe
>> >> >> >>> >>>> that
>> >> >> >>> >>>> patterns of
>> >> >> >>> >>>> atoms and molecules evolved to form intelligent life.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>> Energy patterns could have evolved to a point that they
>> >> >> >>> >>>> manipulated
>> >> >> >>> >>>> atoms to desired patterns and forms to code the information
>> >> >> >>> >>>> required
>> >> >> >>> >>>> for
>> >> >> >>> >>>> life and to allow them to evolve on their own to complex
>> >> >> >>> >>>> intelligent
>> >> >> >>> >>>> beings
>> >> >> >>> >>>> able to wonder at and eventually to solve the riddle of
>> >> >> >>> >>>> where
>> >> >> >>> >>>> they
>> >> >> >>> >>>> came
>> >> >> >>> >>>> from, where they are going and why they are alive. Meaning
>> >> >> >>> >>>> and
>> >> >> >>> >>>> purpose could
>> >> >> >>> >>>> then be given to our fleeting moment of existence.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>> On Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:55:05 PM UTC+1, archytas
>> >> >> >>> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> .......  All we have in respect of this is to posit
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> creation, begging the question of what created that in an
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> infinite
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> regress.  .....We might get to an intelligent state in
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> which
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> creation
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> myths are replaced by something more plausible and Truth
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> comes
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> closer.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> On 29 Nov, 01:41, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > Neil , even after re-transposition how long could the
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > brain
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > live
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > --1000 years , 10000years or maybe as long as the
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > universe
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > ,but
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > ultimately it will die or be destroyed at the end - time
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > of
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > the
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > universe. What survives is the Truth behind life and
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > nothing
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > else.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:33 AM, archytas
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > What survives is the gene - subject to mutations etc.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > We
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > are
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > already
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > 'Borg' in the sense of mass assimilation.  One's mind
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > could
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > be
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > transposed to another substrate (nearish future) - our
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > bodies
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > are
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > currently replaced every 5 years or so- and the new
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > substrate
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > could
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > have nanobots that would allow minds to outlive Lee's
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > 'hope'.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > Such
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > substrated minds might link in super-intelligence and
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > be
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > able to
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > re-
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > transfer into more human-like bodies they learned to
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > make.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > This
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > would
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > be a time beyond singularity.  We don't know what such
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > intelligence
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > might invent or even discover - perhaps such
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > intelligence
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > would
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > discover we are not as alone as we think.  Being human
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > or
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > human
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > being
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > might be as irrelevant as a mitochondria wanting to
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > live
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > free
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > again.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > We might be free of the tiny machines (genes) so much
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > part
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > of
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > our
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > behaviour now.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > On 28 Nov, 14:40, Allan H <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> T9   grrrrrrr
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> Allan
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> Matrix  **  th3 beginning light
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> On Nov 28, 2012 11:38 AM, "gabbydott"
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > Ah! That's the extended version of 'possibly maybe'
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > then
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > (my
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > grammar and
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > spelling checker suggests 10 instead of 'then'
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > though)!
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > :)
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> > 2012/11/28 James <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> I am an aspect of what was, is, and will be,
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> coextensively.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> Maybe.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> On 11/27/2012 2:28 AM, RP Singh wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> Attachment to life is the cause of the desire for
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> immortality
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> and the
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> readiness to believe in an after-life or
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> re-birth.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> It
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> is an
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> off-shoot of
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> the instinct for survival.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >> --
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > >> >  --
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > > --
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > --
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>  (
>> >> >>   )
>> >> >> |_D Allan
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am a Natural Airgunner -
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>  (
>> >>   )
>> >> |_D Allan
>> >>
>> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am a Natural Airgunner -
>> >>
>> >>  Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  (
>>   )
>> |_D Allan
>>
>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>>
>> I am a Natural Airgunner -
>>
>>  Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
>
> --
>
>
>



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Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.


I am a Natural Airgunner -

 Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.

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