I'm not socialist rigs - more an anti-free rider - whether of an underclass or the Ubermensch. Charles Hugh Smith does the position rather well and he's really libertarian. Our intellectual-bildung class has long prevented a form of democracy I want that is thwarted by assumption 'we' know better than the rabble, women, undeveloped peoples and so on. I smoke too - at least sometimes (off them at the moment). Our cold snap has been replaced by more seasonal miserable rain.
On 14 Dec, 14:48, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > With all due respect- that you certainly deserve...The wealthy can be > as dysfunctional as the poor. Socialism guarantees that a portion of > the population will regard the system as an excuse. And gender can be > the same trap- think like a man but act like a lady- or the macho > gorillas- or the gold-diggers, etc.//Women were kept in their place > during the 19th C- look at the stink raised by George Sand and others > when they bucked the system. Women were gracious objects- breeders- or > mistresses or sad streetwalkers- well, I could go on. Back to the > convents and nunneries? But plenty of women have great intelligence- > it's a matter of where they apply it and what they consider as > rewards.//I twisted my knee chipping ice yesterday and a heating pad > seems to have worked- I have never been a fan of electric blankets for > some reason. And I do remember those hot water bottles from long ago > with their quilted covers- a prep for cuddling on a cold winter's > night, perhaps.//I do think tribes and rigid systems determined the > roles of the sexes and classes but that's been dismembered-literally. > And think of the courage involved to be independent and struggle > against the odds- humanity at its best, often.//My daughter has sent > 22 boxes of stuff ahead during the last month- she inherited my > mother's shopaholic gene- big time- but is a darling and anyway, I > smoke so we adjust to our individual vices. Have been so happy out and > about but another stormy weekend is coming, The shovellers did the > best job ever on our 12" snowfall and I am so glad I chose the right > service. Thank you, God. See? Prayer works! > > On Dec 14, 6:17 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'd generally want to leave the issues to the people who experience > > them rigs. My guess is the deep problem is about wealth distribution > > and employment relationships. One can only wonder what we'd be like > > if a decent living wage and work-life balance was guaranteed - I think > > most of today's 'issues' would disappear - though no doubt we'd have > > another set to cope with. > > I was always jealous of the experimenters and theorists of the 19th > > century - Maxwell, Faraday, Pascal, Watt, Joule, Mendelev, Darwin - it > > was something of a surprise to me to find bunches of social > > researchers at around the same time making more sense than the guff we > > get now. ED Morel, Veblen, Durkheim, William James, Ely, Henry > > George, Marx, Hume, Kant - the list is almost endless and I struggle > > to think of any women, something I regard as gravely suspicious. I > > could no doubt link the work of, say, EP Thompson, Karl Polanyi and > > Judith Butler on precarious life and Dorothy Hodgkin to my scientists > > - but all the work tends to be male and stuck in a class-perspective > > even today. > > > My own sense of this is that argument glues us up in gender-class > > perspectives. On the Internet generally there is little dialogue > > aimed at mutual understanding and vast amounts of backfire - prejudice > > just re-enforcing itself. I tend to think feminism has spotted > > something of the flaws in the structure of argument. My own sense is > > they are deeper than gender and to do with a lack of economic > > generosity and the role of 'knowledge' in control - and the dearth of > > spirituality that isn't just about agreement. > > > My grandson's X-box charger has just arrived. I'm about to do the > > food shopping - which will be somewhat curbed as I'm still a stone off > > my target weight of 13 st. Sue bought me an electric blanket for Xmas > > after exploding my microwave-able hot water bottle (actually the mag- > > whatever that powers the microwave was on its last legs and we were > > cooking everything twice - the new one has dials rather than a > > confusing digital interface). My room faces north and I can never be > > bothered to put the gas fire on. All I need now is a shotgun to > > remove various cats and Maxwell from the bed! > > > On Dec 14, 1:13 am, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The topic is extremely complicated- as I am sure you already know and > > > I don't envy your police work as I think domestic abuse has to be a > > > nightmare with the unexpected ever able to erupt after a 911 call. But > > > we could explore many of the issues- one being the choice of > > > victimhood and martyr role or undeserving of happiness,etc. and that > > > could apply to both sexes. Both have strengths and weaknesses that > > > overlap in supposed gender definition and it alters with many factors > > > from early childhood to advanced age- some of it is hormonal. And > > > single parents certainly have to enlarge their role to be both parents > > > as far as influence goes. Frankly I can be very sweet and jolly and > > > also have been as hard as nails in certain situations- though big > > > mischief ensued when I got mixed up as to which hat to grab. Or was it > > > intended? Sometimes it is hard to tell. Anyway, I think Iron Man was > > > started by a local poet here in response to militant feminism and > > > seemed pretty goofy. Didn't care for his poetry or literary criticism > > > either. Oh, well.//Have been a busy bee- food enough for Napoleon's > > > Grande Armee and now my daughter thinks it would be fun to eat out a > > > lot! We will compromise... > > > > On Dec 13, 7:56 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > One can sometimes help by giving a glimpse of a different world in > > > > which obscured violence in this one is revealed for what it is. We > > > > search for ways to get the powerful (at whatever level) to listen > > > > effectively to the demands of others. In abuse cases we stress > > > > listening to the victims. This is both an obvious step and a mistake > > > > at the same time. The tragedy is that victims tend to be easy meat > > > > for destablisation in credibility terms by perpetrators, lawyers, > > > > smear and public reception - and collective assumptions and experience > > > > of false claims, fantasies rather than memories (PTSD is a classic > > > > area - even if the truth is being told through fictions) and > > > > investigator experience of all this. I once visited a house on a hill > > > > pointed out by three separate victims only to find it did not have the > > > > cellars in which the abuse was claimed to have happened (and was owned > > > > by an old lady and her cats). I'd say most incidents I dealt with as > > > > a young cop that were based on claims by members of the public > > > > (without an obvious crime scene or traffic accident) bordered on being > > > > false or trivial. Missing from homes were a classic. The real > > > > incidents were buried in the false or trivial reporting. What real > > > > victims need is investigation that provides evidence separate from > > > > their reports - but this is expensive, time-consuming and many > > > > pressures arise on street-level bureaucrats to recommend no further > > > > action. We have even seen social workers and cops deciding 12 and 13 > > > > year old kids were choosing a prostitution lifestyle rather than being > > > > abused. > > > > > Trails are laid in our history from such apparently differing areas as > > > > the 'weakness of women' to the origins of (say) World War 1 (rotten > > > > Germans rather than, say, the mad Winston Churchill and a British > > > > invasion of Iraq by mostly Indian army - possibly inspired by fears > > > > democracy was getting out of hand - Churchill has form for using > > > > troops to suppress workers against law established after the > > > > Featherstone massacre in 1893). The questions aren't just about how > > > > control fraud myths are held together, but also what can be evidence > > > > in a public domain of ignorance. Cops would now be sacked for > > > > treating abuse claimants the way lawyers do in court - we rarely > > > > change enough of the system. The women I see talking about women's > > > > issues often seem the very kind already protected and who have no > > > > concern for the wider sisterhood coping in poverty and the rest > > > > (violent partners etc) other than to allow their own profitable > > > > politically correct publicity. I suspect one of the big issues is > > > > control of 'welfare' and its use in control. > > > > > On 13 Dec, 12:34, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Time does pass, difficult or otherwise. Our language and behavior > > > > > during > > > > > those times form our relationships in ways we understand, and often, > > > > > in > > > > > ways we don't. > > > > > > On Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:19:53 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote: > > > > > > > When it comes to life one thing I am sure o is This to shall pass.. > > > > > > some times are just harder than other times. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Molly <[email protected] > > > > > > <javascript:>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Having suffered a whopping case of PTSD during my divorce, I do > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > Not at all like living through the baby's colic, because > > > > > > > justification > > > > > > was > > > > > > > not an issue. The baby came first, his comfort and care - not > > > > > > > knowing > > > > > > what > > > > > > > that entailed, really, at the level of the unseen, just knowing > > > > > > > that > > > > > > there > > > > > > > was more than meets the eye involved. > > > > > > > > Suffering through the abuse of another is a warriors task. The > > > > > > opportunity > > > > > > > to stand and come through the experience with integrity in tact. > > > > > > > It is > > > > > > what > > > > > > > it is. Life. > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:51:53 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: > > > > > > > >> Remarkable what extent even abuse such as persistent shouting can > > > > > > >> deform minds Molly. Our dog is a beast of peace. I wouldn't ask > > > > > > >> obedience from him beyond keeping him safe. We used to demand > > > > > > >> such > > > > > > >> from women. I wonder how this was resisted to the point no > > > > > > >> reasonable > > ... > > read more » --
