You can understand only that which you are capable of understanding and no amount of reiteration can change that--but still one hopes. I have given a lot of consideration to your mandala , whether it is great or small , and I have to admit that you will find me to be an atheist in that regard.
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > That is not what you said,, you said god is Nature and nature is a > know form and shape (s) .. the argument you are using a definition > god is nature is one of atheism uses to prove their is no god.. > > You are right I have known that for a long time you always come back > to the same point ,, again and again you have no freedom to learn and > what is more important is grow in spirituality..but that is what > happens when you beliefs that don't allow one iota of freedom. you > act as if you have all the freedom of the universe,, but you always > come back to the same point you have not one iota of freedom. in > other words you have no real beliefs just hand me down dogma and > doctrine which you dare not stray from.. that is okay souther baptist > are the same way.. no big deal salvation is based how you live your > life or let me see dharma > > You have no idea of what my relationship is with my God because it is > not your god and you do not to understand nor do you want to > understand the beliefs of others.. > > You really are funny as you have no idea of your place on the great > mandala. much less mine. It is not my place to judge. RP you have no > real idea of what spirituality is.. there is a big difference between > me and you .. I am willing to learn > Allan > > > > On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> An atheist is a person who does not believe in God , whereas , Allan, >> to me God is more powerful than He is to you. My God is omnipotent and >> does not allow even an iota of freedom , whereas you are forever free >> to do as you wish and god like your father only scolds you and is >> before your eyes to hear and see. To me God is formless and >> unattainable , whereas you are always seeing Him and attain to Him >> when you reach that stage in your mandala. >> >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>> You are funny RP the argument is simple you are an devote atheist >>> and before your statement is the exact argument that has been used >>> for generations of atheists... Why would I search for deeper meaning >>> in statements of what I consider foolishness.. for your reading >>> information what you are trying to say is involved in >>> transcendentalism.. that can go in many directions and in itself is >>> interesting. >>> You RP are the perfect Atheist by definition what is funnier you >>> don't know it.. lol >>> Allan >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:03 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I don't understand your argument , but one thing is sure that I have >>>> never claimed to have had visions. I have always believed in an undual >>>> God , Nature or Atman which by my definition transcends awareness or >>>> to be blunt is unconscious. I know you have never read my posts >>>> carefully and thus your confusion regarding my statements and beliefs. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Sorry RP heard that discussion before over a coffee table in Florida >>>>> some `25 years ago and the person laying forth the argument is a >>>>> devote atheist argument and not new. simple one way to explain on >>>>> going life and expanding knowledge,, one used by atheist.. >>>>> Now you are claiming that atheist believe in God.. verry confusing.. >>>>> Allan >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:36 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Allan , an atheist is a person who doesn't believe in intelligent >>>>>> design. God and Nature are one and the same. Merry Christmas to you ! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> you are a very confusing person RP ..one moment you claim to be >>>>>>> enlightened with visions and deep spiritual convictions and here you >>>>>>> are desperately trying to prove you are an atheist,, and atheism is >>>>>>> acceptable .. or are you just a confused puppy not knowing where to >>>>>>> turn? >>>>>>> Have a good holiday >>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 8:29 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Instead of believing in an Intelligent designer if we believe that >>>>>>>> Nature itself is inherently intelligent and things move on with an >>>>>>>> intelligent purpose , which though not easily recognizable as such, is >>>>>>>> in any case true may well be within your belief system , Neil. In >>>>>>>> spite of mayhem caused by natural disasters life still moves on and >>>>>>>> the fact that Nature will one day destroy all life and the universe >>>>>>>> doesn't negate its intelligence. Growth doesn't move forward >>>>>>>> continuously but after a certain stage decay starts creeping in. >>>>>>>> Everything is born , grows , and dies and this is true for all >>>>>>>> manifestations of Nature and doesn't negate its intelligent design. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:57 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I tend to agree RP, though I don't stretch to an intelligent designer >>>>>>>>> other than as a possibility. We might be approaching a tipping point >>>>>>>>> on the reason for existence. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 24 Dec, 18:29, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> The systematic way in which this body is formed and works shows that >>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>> is Intelligence in Nature and we won't be far wrong if we call it >>>>>>>>>> Intelligent design. That which appears to be random choice is >>>>>>>>>> actually a >>>>>>>>>> high level of Intelligence. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ( >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> |_D Allan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I talk to myself, >>>>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ( >>>>> ) >>>>> |_D Allan >>>>> >>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>>> >>>>> Of course I talk to myself, >>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ( >>> ) >>> |_D Allan >>> >>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>> >>> Of course I talk to myself, >>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> >> > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > Of course I talk to myself, > Sometimes I need expert advice.. > > -- > > > --
