Because you have put it forward in a previous thread and is there for everyone to contemplate and assess and give an opinion. Nothing personal , you know.
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > why would you be even considering my mandala? > Allan > > On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 3:09 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> You can understand only that which you are capable of understanding >> and no amount of reiteration can change that--but still one hopes. I >> have given a lot of consideration to your mandala , whether it is >> great or small , and I have to admit that you will find me to be an >> atheist in that regard. >> >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>> That is not what you said,, you said god is Nature and nature is a >>> know form and shape (s) .. the argument you are using a definition >>> god is nature is one of atheism uses to prove their is no god.. >>> >>> You are right I have known that for a long time you always come back >>> to the same point ,, again and again you have no freedom to learn and >>> what is more important is grow in spirituality..but that is what >>> happens when you beliefs that don't allow one iota of freedom. you >>> act as if you have all the freedom of the universe,, but you always >>> come back to the same point you have not one iota of freedom. in >>> other words you have no real beliefs just hand me down dogma and >>> doctrine which you dare not stray from.. that is okay souther baptist >>> are the same way.. no big deal salvation is based how you live your >>> life or let me see dharma >>> >>> You have no idea of what my relationship is with my God because it is >>> not your god and you do not to understand nor do you want to >>> understand the beliefs of others.. >>> >>> You really are funny as you have no idea of your place on the great >>> mandala. much less mine. It is not my place to judge. RP you have no >>> real idea of what spirituality is.. there is a big difference between >>> me and you .. I am willing to learn >>> Allan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> An atheist is a person who does not believe in God , whereas , Allan, >>>> to me God is more powerful than He is to you. My God is omnipotent and >>>> does not allow even an iota of freedom , whereas you are forever free >>>> to do as you wish and god like your father only scolds you and is >>>> before your eyes to hear and see. To me God is formless and >>>> unattainable , whereas you are always seeing Him and attain to Him >>>> when you reach that stage in your mandala. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> You are funny RP the argument is simple you are an devote atheist >>>>> and before your statement is the exact argument that has been used >>>>> for generations of atheists... Why would I search for deeper meaning >>>>> in statements of what I consider foolishness.. for your reading >>>>> information what you are trying to say is involved in >>>>> transcendentalism.. that can go in many directions and in itself is >>>>> interesting. >>>>> You RP are the perfect Atheist by definition what is funnier you >>>>> don't know it.. lol >>>>> Allan >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:03 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I don't understand your argument , but one thing is sure that I have >>>>>> never claimed to have had visions. I have always believed in an undual >>>>>> God , Nature or Atman which by my definition transcends awareness or >>>>>> to be blunt is unconscious. I know you have never read my posts >>>>>> carefully and thus your confusion regarding my statements and beliefs. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Sorry RP heard that discussion before over a coffee table in Florida >>>>>>> some `25 years ago and the person laying forth the argument is a >>>>>>> devote atheist argument and not new. simple one way to explain on >>>>>>> going life and expanding knowledge,, one used by atheist.. >>>>>>> Now you are claiming that atheist believe in God.. verry confusing.. >>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:36 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Allan , an atheist is a person who doesn't believe in intelligent >>>>>>>> design. God and Nature are one and the same. Merry Christmas to you ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> you are a very confusing person RP ..one moment you claim to be >>>>>>>>> enlightened with visions and deep spiritual convictions and here you >>>>>>>>> are desperately trying to prove you are an atheist,, and atheism is >>>>>>>>> acceptable .. or are you just a confused puppy not knowing where to >>>>>>>>> turn? >>>>>>>>> Have a good holiday >>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 8:29 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Instead of believing in an Intelligent designer if we believe that >>>>>>>>>> Nature itself is inherently intelligent and things move on with an >>>>>>>>>> intelligent purpose , which though not easily recognizable as such, >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> in any case true may well be within your belief system , Neil. In >>>>>>>>>> spite of mayhem caused by natural disasters life still moves on and >>>>>>>>>> the fact that Nature will one day destroy all life and the universe >>>>>>>>>> doesn't negate its intelligence. Growth doesn't move forward >>>>>>>>>> continuously but after a certain stage decay starts creeping in. >>>>>>>>>> Everything is born , grows , and dies and this is true for all >>>>>>>>>> manifestations of Nature and doesn't negate its intelligent design. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:57 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree RP, though I don't stretch to an intelligent >>>>>>>>>>> designer >>>>>>>>>>> other than as a possibility. We might be approaching a tipping >>>>>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>>>> on the reason for existence. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Dec, 18:29, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> The systematic way in which this body is formed and works shows >>>>>>>>>>>> that there >>>>>>>>>>>> is Intelligence in Nature and we won't be far wrong if we call it >>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent design. That which appears to be random choice is >>>>>>>>>>>> actually a >>>>>>>>>>>> high level of Intelligence. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ( >>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>> |_D Allan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course I talk to myself, >>>>>>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ( >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> |_D Allan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I talk to myself, >>>>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ( >>>>> ) >>>>> |_D Allan >>>>> >>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>>> >>>>> Of course I talk to myself, >>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ( >>> ) >>> |_D Allan >>> >>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>> >>> Of course I talk to myself, >>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> >> > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > Of course I talk to myself, > Sometimes I need expert advice.. > > -- > > > --
