why would you be even considering my mandala? Allan On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 3:09 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > You can understand only that which you are capable of understanding > and no amount of reiteration can change that--but still one hopes. I > have given a lot of consideration to your mandala , whether it is > great or small , and I have to admit that you will find me to be an > atheist in that regard. > > On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> That is not what you said,, you said god is Nature and nature is a >> know form and shape (s) .. the argument you are using a definition >> god is nature is one of atheism uses to prove their is no god.. >> >> You are right I have known that for a long time you always come back >> to the same point ,, again and again you have no freedom to learn and >> what is more important is grow in spirituality..but that is what >> happens when you beliefs that don't allow one iota of freedom. you >> act as if you have all the freedom of the universe,, but you always >> come back to the same point you have not one iota of freedom. in >> other words you have no real beliefs just hand me down dogma and >> doctrine which you dare not stray from.. that is okay souther baptist >> are the same way.. no big deal salvation is based how you live your >> life or let me see dharma >> >> You have no idea of what my relationship is with my God because it is >> not your god and you do not to understand nor do you want to >> understand the beliefs of others.. >> >> You really are funny as you have no idea of your place on the great >> mandala. much less mine. It is not my place to judge. RP you have no >> real idea of what spirituality is.. there is a big difference between >> me and you .. I am willing to learn >> Allan >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> An atheist is a person who does not believe in God , whereas , Allan, >>> to me God is more powerful than He is to you. My God is omnipotent and >>> does not allow even an iota of freedom , whereas you are forever free >>> to do as you wish and god like your father only scolds you and is >>> before your eyes to hear and see. To me God is formless and >>> unattainable , whereas you are always seeing Him and attain to Him >>> when you reach that stage in your mandala. >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> You are funny RP the argument is simple you are an devote atheist >>>> and before your statement is the exact argument that has been used >>>> for generations of atheists... Why would I search for deeper meaning >>>> in statements of what I consider foolishness.. for your reading >>>> information what you are trying to say is involved in >>>> transcendentalism.. that can go in many directions and in itself is >>>> interesting. >>>> You RP are the perfect Atheist by definition what is funnier you >>>> don't know it.. lol >>>> Allan >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 12:03 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I don't understand your argument , but one thing is sure that I have >>>>> never claimed to have had visions. I have always believed in an undual >>>>> God , Nature or Atman which by my definition transcends awareness or >>>>> to be blunt is unconscious. I know you have never read my posts >>>>> carefully and thus your confusion regarding my statements and beliefs. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Sorry RP heard that discussion before over a coffee table in Florida >>>>>> some `25 years ago and the person laying forth the argument is a >>>>>> devote atheist argument and not new. simple one way to explain on >>>>>> going life and expanding knowledge,, one used by atheist.. >>>>>> Now you are claiming that atheist believe in God.. verry confusing.. >>>>>> Allan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:36 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Allan , an atheist is a person who doesn't believe in intelligent >>>>>>> design. God and Nature are one and the same. Merry Christmas to you ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> you are a very confusing person RP ..one moment you claim to be >>>>>>>> enlightened with visions and deep spiritual convictions and here you >>>>>>>> are desperately trying to prove you are an atheist,, and atheism is >>>>>>>> acceptable .. or are you just a confused puppy not knowing where to >>>>>>>> turn? >>>>>>>> Have a good holiday >>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 8:29 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Instead of believing in an Intelligent designer if we believe that >>>>>>>>> Nature itself is inherently intelligent and things move on with an >>>>>>>>> intelligent purpose , which though not easily recognizable as such, is >>>>>>>>> in any case true may well be within your belief system , Neil. In >>>>>>>>> spite of mayhem caused by natural disasters life still moves on and >>>>>>>>> the fact that Nature will one day destroy all life and the universe >>>>>>>>> doesn't negate its intelligence. Growth doesn't move forward >>>>>>>>> continuously but after a certain stage decay starts creeping in. >>>>>>>>> Everything is born , grows , and dies and this is true for all >>>>>>>>> manifestations of Nature and doesn't negate its intelligent design. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:57 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree RP, though I don't stretch to an intelligent designer >>>>>>>>>> other than as a possibility. We might be approaching a tipping point >>>>>>>>>> on the reason for existence. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 24 Dec, 18:29, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> The systematic way in which this body is formed and works shows >>>>>>>>>>> that there >>>>>>>>>>> is Intelligence in Nature and we won't be far wrong if we call it >>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent design. That which appears to be random choice is >>>>>>>>>>> actually a >>>>>>>>>>> high level of Intelligence. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ( >>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>> |_D Allan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course I talk to myself, >>>>>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ( >>>>>> ) >>>>>> |_D Allan >>>>>> >>>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course I talk to myself, >>>>>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ( >>>> ) >>>> |_D Allan >>>> >>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>> >>>> Of course I talk to myself, >>>> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> |_D Allan >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> Of course I talk to myself, >> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >> >> -- >> >> >> > > -- > > >
-- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. Of course I talk to myself, Sometimes I need expert advice.. --
