Please, Allan. YOU are replying in accordance with what YOU understand that RP says. The result of long and many years of 'What do YOU think?' trainings. Motives are generated by unconscious and conscious factors, along the scales of gratification and avoidance of suffering - for ourselves and our environment.
2013/1/2 Allan H <[email protected]> > According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or > latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god > in which you believe.. > > Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have > permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission > and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think > you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not > have to do that .. you can believe as you want.. > > Oh well discussions with you go no where,, > Allan > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real > > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the unconscious > and > > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness is > > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong instinctive > sex > > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them. > > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others for > our > > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious motives ? > > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even aware > even > > though they are the real determinants of our actions. > > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously we > are > > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand > freely. > > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by unconscious > > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously we > are > > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we can > be > > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage > > evaporates into thin air ! > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > Of course I talk to myself, > Sometimes I need expert advice.. > > -- > > > > 2013/1/2 Allan H <[email protected]> > According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or > latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god > in which you believe.. > > Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have > permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission > and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think > you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not > have to do that .. you can believe as you want.. > > Oh well discussions with you go no where,, > Allan > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real > > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the unconscious > and > > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness is > > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong instinctive > sex > > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them. > > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others for > our > > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious motives ? > > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even aware > even > > though they are the real determinants of our actions. > > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously we > are > > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand > freely. > > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by unconscious > > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously we > are > > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we can > be > > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage > > evaporates into thin air ! > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > Of course I talk to myself, > Sometimes I need expert advice.. > > -- > > > > --
