I can read english gabby and I do understand it.. Allan On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:52 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > Please, Allan. YOU are replying in accordance with what YOU understand that > RP says. The result of long and many years of 'What do YOU think?' > trainings. Motives are generated by unconscious and conscious factors, along > the scales of gratification and avoidance of suffering - for ourselves and > our environment. > > 2013/1/2 Allan H <[email protected]> >> >> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or >> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god >> in which you believe.. >> >> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have >> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission >> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think >> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not >> have to do that .. you can believe as you want.. >> >> Oh well discussions with you go no where,, >> Allan >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real >> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the unconscious >> > and >> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness is >> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong instinctive >> > sex >> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them. >> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others for >> > our >> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious motives ? >> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even aware >> > even >> > though they are the real determinants of our actions. >> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously we >> > are >> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand >> > freely. >> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by unconscious >> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously we >> > are >> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we can >> > be >> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage >> > evaporates into thin air ! >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> |_D Allan >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> Of course I talk to myself, >> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >> >> -- >> >> >> > > > > 2013/1/2 Allan H <[email protected]> >> >> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or >> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god >> in which you believe.. >> >> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have >> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission >> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think >> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not >> have to do that .. you can believe as you want.. >> >> Oh well discussions with you go no where,, >> Allan >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real >> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the unconscious >> > and >> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness is >> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong instinctive >> > sex >> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them. >> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others for >> > our >> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious motives ? >> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even aware >> > even >> > though they are the real determinants of our actions. >> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously we >> > are >> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand >> > freely. >> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by unconscious >> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously we >> > are >> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we can >> > be >> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage >> > evaporates into thin air ! >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> |_D Allan >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> Of course I talk to myself, >> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >> >> -- >> >> >> > > -- > > >
-- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. Of course I talk to myself, Sometimes I need expert advice.. --
