Thanks , Gabby. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:15 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > Guess what, Allan, me too! That doesn't stop me from noticing interferences > from other categorical imperatives though. Your Master Jesus, for example, > do you think he would have treated RP the way you treat him? I don't think > so. RP has done you or anyone else here no harm, he is simply presenting his > output to us. It's an offer to pick up on anything he says and he will > politely continue to provide you with the next output products. Thanks, RP! > Good to have you on board too. > > > 2013/1/3 Allan H <[email protected]> >> >> I can read english gabby and I do understand it.. >> Allan >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:52 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Please, Allan. YOU are replying in accordance with what YOU understand >> > that >> > RP says. The result of long and many years of 'What do YOU think?' >> > trainings. Motives are generated by unconscious and conscious factors, >> > along >> > the scales of gratification and avoidance of suffering - for ourselves >> > and >> > our environment. >> > >> > 2013/1/2 Allan H <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or >> >> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god >> >> in which you believe.. >> >> >> >> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have >> >> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission >> >> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think >> >> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not >> >> have to do that .. you can believe as you want.. >> >> >> >> Oh well discussions with you go no where,, >> >> Allan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real >> >> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the >> >> > unconscious >> >> > and >> >> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness >> >> > is >> >> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong >> >> > instinctive >> >> > sex >> >> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them. >> >> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others >> >> > for >> >> > our >> >> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious >> >> > motives ? >> >> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even >> >> > aware >> >> > even >> >> > though they are the real determinants of our actions. >> >> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously >> >> > we >> >> > are >> >> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand >> >> > freely. >> >> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by >> >> > unconscious >> >> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously >> >> > we >> >> > are >> >> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we >> >> > can >> >> > be >> >> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage >> >> > evaporates into thin air ! >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ( >> >> ) >> >> |_D Allan >> >> >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> >> >> Of course I talk to myself, >> >> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > 2013/1/2 Allan H <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or >> >> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god >> >> in which you believe.. >> >> >> >> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have >> >> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission >> >> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think >> >> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not >> >> have to do that .. you can believe as you want.. >> >> >> >> Oh well discussions with you go no where,, >> >> Allan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real >> >> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the >> >> > unconscious >> >> > and >> >> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness >> >> > is >> >> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong >> >> > instinctive >> >> > sex >> >> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them. >> >> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others >> >> > for >> >> > our >> >> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious >> >> > motives ? >> >> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even >> >> > aware >> >> > even >> >> > though they are the real determinants of our actions. >> >> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously >> >> > we >> >> > are >> >> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand >> >> > freely. >> >> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by >> >> > unconscious >> >> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously >> >> > we >> >> > are >> >> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we >> >> > can >> >> > be >> >> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage >> >> > evaporates into thin air ! >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ( >> >> ) >> >> |_D Allan >> >> >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> >> >> Of course I talk to myself, >> >> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> |_D Allan >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> Of course I talk to myself, >> Sometimes I need expert advice.. >> >> -- >> >> >> > > -- > > >
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