At least everyone saying things for money and fame mean what they say, may it be the truth, the lie, the illusion, the dream - all these sayings serve a very real purpose for the speaker, Allan.
So bad google+ is now good google+. How come? You understand how it works now? The prospect of community ownership made you have a second look? Are we ready now to reconsider an advertising channel for "Minds Eye" there? 2013/1/24 Allan H <[email protected]> > Actually I think Obama means what he is saying and in reality is > having to fight the republican party that is more interested the rich > than the welfare of the nations people. Bear in mind the greatest > majority of the nations debt was brought on duing republican > administrations or as a direct result of laws passed by the republican > party.. > Blame needs to be placed correctly.. > > well all things aside I created a community on google + called > "Soul" in case you are interested > Allan > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:00 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Back from Max's wrestle with a Boxer (lost on points) and a snowman > > (won with leaping kick), we have Cameron lying on tax evasion with no > > mention of Britain's role via offshore. He moves on to talk of > > tackling poverty through democracy, peace, rule of law and > > transparency. The worrying thing is how he manages to sound like a > > champion and must, like Obama, mean none of it. Now he's saying big > > bankers have told him to pursue the open society agenda! Arggh! > > > > On Jan 24, 8:48 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I was only thinking out loud rigs. In science we don't even know what > >> mass is, but still manage to weight it accurately for most purposes. > >> Start trying to produce mass from energy (without something given in > >> nature like photosynthesis) and politics looks simple! My guess has > >> long been most of us don't want to know about politics but would like > >> it done honestly - and there lies the snag, summed-up in the term > >> transparency - this looks simple but is a double-edged sword (as in my > >> tax return is due and I won't be transparent! - though I am honest and > >> do pay up). I hate the way the real issues are really denied debate > >> and part of that is our desires for reasonably private family life. > >> > >> I do fear we are at a tipping point and can't see the benefits of more > >> transparency and the role of machines in this. My mate Dave runs a > >> second till in his pub and sells the odd bottle of spirits through it > >> - thus cheating the brewery and tax man. Without this no pub - the > >> business model for such pubs has collapsed. I turn a blind eye and > >> hope he succeeds. I've know many business people who had to cheat, > >> lie to the bank and so on to get through hard times, often creating > >> successful businesses. I don't think big business should behave this > >> way - but the business cycle does provide some justification. I > >> wonder how many 'Dave fiddles' make a Starbucks? > >> > >> If you look at China (allegedly communist - though some way from the > >> 16th century German Christian communist rebellions) you find billions > >> being invested in US/EU property by an elite - this kind of money from > >> all over should be invested in more social and scientific capital. I > >> think we could get to that without revolution and are largely > >> restrained by fear. It's not that long since we couldn't talk of the > >> Sun and planets orbiting same without doing auto da fe. I thus see > >> economics restrained by instruments of torture and incapable of the > >> courage once needed in science. I am pessimistic on educating a > >> critical mass of people and the nightmare is the mass of people are > >> breeding us to a precipice. I also fear technology may spread to > >> terrorists in a way we have only yet imagined through machine > >> expertise in chemical engineering. > >> > >> In the end we run away from the reality, much as I'm about to do with > >> Max and the day job - this usually works rigs - but I suspect the > >> energy in the zeitgeist is low! He knows his walk is due and is now > >> grumping about accusing me of stealing his 'nose time' in the universe > >> outside the door I don;t 'see' like him. > >> > >> On 23 Jan, 14:22, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > there was a time when american politicians worked for the good of the > >> > people. Today that is that has all changed.. the republican party is > >> > willing to hold the nation hostage so they can support the high priest > >> > of the golden calf.. making sure the poor pay the taxes and not the > >> > extremely wealthy.. > >> > >> > Oh well greed has it problems usually in less than 100 year when they > >> > face their resurrection,, but the it is to late .,.,. poor souls.. > >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:09 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > He's also as stubborn as a mule Allan - makes him even better > really. > >> > >> > > Your pros and cons (plus margins) had me thinking rigs - I've been > >> > > asked for a book chapter on 'why economics isn't a science' and saw > a > >> > > set of scales as I read your comments. Coincidentally, Obama was > >> > > doing his inauguration speech on tv and I remembered you don't like > >> > > him - he changed to a lying toad in front of my eyes (literally in > my > >> > > head - though I always know I'm seeing an illusion). It was the > >> > > 'bringing democracy to all nations of the world' bit. Stuff lies to > >> > > us in science - mass is the classic - we treat it as creating > >> > > gravitational force (yet gravity is an illusion in general > relativity) > >> > > and also treat it in terms of inertia - experimental results > >> > > coincidentally 'prove' both. US (and all other) imperialism should > >> > > make a statement like Obama's impossible to perceive other than as a > >> > > lie (the historical evidence is that we have subverted democracy > >> > > almost everywhere). I know from my own experience as an > experimenter > >> > > that it is very difficult to set up measurement. Thinking of this > >> > > woolly mix I went to bed and dreamed of politicians as cheating > >> > > alchemists. The dream turned sour at that point when I sensed I was > >> > > on to something. > >> > >> > > I can see a machine able to flag up (say) US foreign policy effects > as > >> > > politicians make their promises - clanking up pros and cons to make > >> > > lying in performance management more obvious. Science is aware that > >> > > it still gets caught up in myths (like creation and big bang - can > we > >> > > think without origin) but essentially works hard on making factual > >> > > databases 'anyone' can use in terms of knowing what and knowing how. > >> > > The economic-political system generally prevents this altogether. > >> > > Don't really know what I'm on about - but I'm not scared by the > >> > > machine possibilities and suspect somewhere in this I don;t believe > we > >> > > are human yet - and might only become so with machine help. > >> > >> > > Time to unleash the hound! > >> > > On Jan 23, 6:56 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> sounds like a great dog Neil > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:58 AM, archytas <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> > Maxwell is a stubby-legged Labrador and a bit of a wimp. He's a > >> > >> > sweetie. > >> > >> > >> > On Jan 22, 1:40 pm, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >> My last was a lab-shepherd with high energy till he grew old- > age 13. > >> > >> >> Also had a Chesapeake Bay retriever- another large dog that > loves > >> > >> >> water. I have a large backyard but he really needed a field- > stream- > >> > >> >> woods,etc. This cold is hard on paws- some fit their dogs with > >> > >> >> sweaters and booties.//Yes- it does seem the Brits collapse in > snow > >> > >> >> and unusual weather but it's a strange year- even Jerusalem > could make > >> > >> >> snowmen this year. Anyway- happy travels today. > >> > >> > >> >> On Jan 22, 12:56 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> >> > Max loves the snow - though we rarely drop much below > freezing here > >> > >> >> > even with wind-chill. I'm off into Manchester today, > assuming out > >> > >> >> > trains run on a quarter of an inch of snow, > >> > >> > >> >> > On Jan 22, 1:07 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> >> > > brrr. We might be there overnight. The deep freeze. > Wonderful > >> > >> >> > > world. We move through it regardless. > >> > >> > >> >> > > On Jan 21, 10:24 am, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> >> > > > My earlier post has been diverted to outer space, it > seems. > >> > >> > >> >> > > > That loneliness may be a cover, you know. > >> > >> > >> >> > > > Saul Bellow was a rascal. > >> > >> > >> >> > > > The speed of information leads to surprise and a protean > miss, often. > >> > >> >> > > > I look for patterns in history/culture and try to keep > two columns- > >> > >> >> > > > pro and con with hope for the margins. The top tiers of > government are > >> > >> >> > > > usually the culprits rather than their off-spring- and > it's true of > >> > >> >> > > > tribes as well as complicated systems- the buck really > does stop- even > >> > >> >> > > > in suitcases of cash and packets of Viagra. > >> > >> > >> >> > > > My "dog" would need diapers- we're at -30 wind chill > factor. > >> > >> > >> >> > > > On Jan 21, 6:10 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > Of course, I don't expect anything tangled-up with > government and > >> > >> >> > > > > academic bureaucracy to produce much practical. The > gist was once > >> > >> >> > > > > that we should aim for praxis, a form of rational > action. For some > >> > >> >> > > > > the guide was marxism, but most of us grew up with a > form of Keynesian > >> > >> >> > > > > guide - the economics of full employment and FDR's > never completed > >> > >> >> > > > > second Bill of Rights. More recently we have reverted > to the control > >> > >> >> > > > > fraud of banksters and neo-classical economics. I was > never much > >> > >> >> > > > > interested in the 'grand theory' - as a cop I was more > interested in > >> > >> >> > > > > what people were hiding and lying about, as scientist > the grand was > >> > >> >> > > > > excluded as rigorously as possible a the laboratory > door and as a > >> > >> >> > > > > university teacher I was more interested in developing > resourceful > >> > >> >> > > > > humans than daft, religious managerial theories. As a > kid, my elder > >> > >> >> > > > > brother and sister always claimed I changed the > goalposts in argument > >> > >> >> > > > > and as I grew up I discovered this was what argument > was generally > >> > >> >> > > > > about - the goalposts changing name to root metaphor > and paradigm. > >> > >> >> > > > > Experts in argument are bought like lawyers and have > about the same > >> > >> >> > > > > ethics. When Socrates gestures at the Sophists > claiming 'I know > >> > >> >> > > > > nothing, but even this is to know more than they' he is > just being the > >> > >> >> > > > > smartest guy in the room. > >> > >> >> > > > > We say 'jaw-jaw' is better than 'war-war' - but there > is no crucial > >> > >> >> > > > > experiment to decide in 'jaw-jaw'. The problem with > argument is that > >> > >> >> > > > > it needs arbitration if human beings are involved in it > and the seeds > >> > >> >> > > > > of its own destruction are laid in most people having > no training in > >> > >> >> > > > > how it is constructed. If you get some training in > this you can be > >> > >> >> > > > > bought like a lawyer as a mouthpiece. Machine > knowledge bases and > >> > >> >> > > > > reasoning capacity potentially offer a democratisation > of argument > >> > >> >> > > > > expertise, manufacturing capability, medicine, finance > and much more - > >> > >> >> > > > > evidence-based practice for all. In practice, doing > management > >> > >> >> > > > > information systems, one soon learns those currently in > the know want > >> > >> >> > > > > to keep things that way. I believe > >> > >> ... > >> > >> read more ยป > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > Of course I talk to myself, > Sometimes I need expert advice.. > > -- > > > > --
