I found your community. Looks like a dog-soul group at the moment, but nothing to be scared of really. What's wrong with links to videos and blogs? Do you intend to run the group via a text engine of some sort that cannot handle other stuff?
2013/1/24 Allan H <[email protected]> > No Gabby I do not ,, repeating do not understand how it works,, I > still do not understand it,, but a friend of mine Tim talked me into > doing a group.. > > Guess I will be finding out.. scary as hell > Allan > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:26 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > At least everyone saying things for money and fame mean what they say, > may > > it be the truth, the lie, the illusion, the dream - all these sayings > serve > > a very real purpose for the speaker, Allan. > > > > So bad google+ is now good google+. How come? You understand how it works > > now? The prospect of community ownership made you have a second look? > Are we > > ready now to reconsider an advertising channel for "Minds Eye" there? > > > > > > 2013/1/24 Allan H <[email protected]> > >> > >> Actually I think Obama means what he is saying and in reality is > >> having to fight the republican party that is more interested the rich > >> than the welfare of the nations people. Bear in mind the greatest > >> majority of the nations debt was brought on duing republican > >> administrations or as a direct result of laws passed by the republican > >> party.. > >> Blame needs to be placed correctly.. > >> > >> well all things aside I created a community on google + called > >> "Soul" in case you are interested > >> Allan > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:00 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Back from Max's wrestle with a Boxer (lost on points) and a snowman > >> > (won with leaping kick), we have Cameron lying on tax evasion with no > >> > mention of Britain's role via offshore. He moves on to talk of > >> > tackling poverty through democracy, peace, rule of law and > >> > transparency. The worrying thing is how he manages to sound like a > >> > champion and must, like Obama, mean none of it. Now he's saying big > >> > bankers have told him to pursue the open society agenda! Arggh! > >> > > >> > On Jan 24, 8:48 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I was only thinking out loud rigs. In science we don't even know > what > >> >> mass is, but still manage to weight it accurately for most purposes. > >> >> Start trying to produce mass from energy (without something given in > >> >> nature like photosynthesis) and politics looks simple! My guess has > >> >> long been most of us don't want to know about politics but would like > >> >> it done honestly - and there lies the snag, summed-up in the term > >> >> transparency - this looks simple but is a double-edged sword (as in > my > >> >> tax return is due and I won't be transparent! - though I am honest > and > >> >> do pay up). I hate the way the real issues are really denied debate > >> >> and part of that is our desires for reasonably private family life. > >> >> > >> >> I do fear we are at a tipping point and can't see the benefits of > more > >> >> transparency and the role of machines in this. My mate Dave runs a > >> >> second till in his pub and sells the odd bottle of spirits through it > >> >> - thus cheating the brewery and tax man. Without this no pub - the > >> >> business model for such pubs has collapsed. I turn a blind eye and > >> >> hope he succeeds. I've know many business people who had to cheat, > >> >> lie to the bank and so on to get through hard times, often creating > >> >> successful businesses. I don't think big business should behave this > >> >> way - but the business cycle does provide some justification. I > >> >> wonder how many 'Dave fiddles' make a Starbucks? > >> >> > >> >> If you look at China (allegedly communist - though some way from the > >> >> 16th century German Christian communist rebellions) you find billions > >> >> being invested in US/EU property by an elite - this kind of money > from > >> >> all over should be invested in more social and scientific capital. I > >> >> think we could get to that without revolution and are largely > >> >> restrained by fear. It's not that long since we couldn't talk of the > >> >> Sun and planets orbiting same without doing auto da fe. I thus see > >> >> economics restrained by instruments of torture and incapable of the > >> >> courage once needed in science. I am pessimistic on educating a > >> >> critical mass of people and the nightmare is the mass of people are > >> >> breeding us to a precipice. I also fear technology may spread to > >> >> terrorists in a way we have only yet imagined through machine > >> >> expertise in chemical engineering. > >> >> > >> >> In the end we run away from the reality, much as I'm about to do with > >> >> Max and the day job - this usually works rigs - but I suspect the > >> >> energy in the zeitgeist is low! He knows his walk is due and is now > >> >> grumping about accusing me of stealing his 'nose time' in the > universe > >> >> outside the door I don;t 'see' like him. > >> >> > >> >> On 23 Jan, 14:22, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > there was a time when american politicians worked for the good of > the > >> >> > people. Today that is that has all changed.. the republican party > is > >> >> > willing to hold the nation hostage so they can support the high > >> >> > priest > >> >> > of the golden calf.. making sure the poor pay the taxes and not > the > >> >> > extremely wealthy.. > >> >> > >> >> > Oh well greed has it problems usually in less than 100 year when > they > >> >> > face their resurrection,, but the it is to late .,.,. poor > souls.. > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:09 PM, archytas <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > > He's also as stubborn as a mule Allan - makes him even better > >> >> > > really. > >> >> > >> >> > > Your pros and cons (plus margins) had me thinking rigs - I've > been > >> >> > > asked for a book chapter on 'why economics isn't a science' and > saw > >> >> > > a > >> >> > > set of scales as I read your comments. Coincidentally, Obama was > >> >> > > doing his inauguration speech on tv and I remembered you don't > like > >> >> > > him - he changed to a lying toad in front of my eyes (literally > in > >> >> > > my > >> >> > > head - though I always know I'm seeing an illusion). It was the > >> >> > > 'bringing democracy to all nations of the world' bit. Stuff lies > >> >> > > to > >> >> > > us in science - mass is the classic - we treat it as creating > >> >> > > gravitational force (yet gravity is an illusion in general > >> >> > > relativity) > >> >> > > and also treat it in terms of inertia - experimental results > >> >> > > coincidentally 'prove' both. US (and all other) imperialism > should > >> >> > > make a statement like Obama's impossible to perceive other than > as > >> >> > > a > >> >> > > lie (the historical evidence is that we have subverted democracy > >> >> > > almost everywhere). I know from my own experience as an > >> >> > > experimenter > >> >> > > that it is very difficult to set up measurement. Thinking of this > >> >> > > woolly mix I went to bed and dreamed of politicians as cheating > >> >> > > alchemists. The dream turned sour at that point when I sensed I > >> >> > > was > >> >> > > on to something. > >> >> > >> >> > > I can see a machine able to flag up (say) US foreign policy > effects > >> >> > > as > >> >> > > politicians make their promises - clanking up pros and cons to > make > >> >> > > lying in performance management more obvious. Science is aware > >> >> > > that > >> >> > > it still gets caught up in myths (like creation and big bang - > can > >> >> > > we > >> >> > > think without origin) but essentially works hard on making > factual > >> >> > > databases 'anyone' can use in terms of knowing what and knowing > >> >> > > how. > >> >> > > The economic-political system generally prevents this > altogether. > >> >> > > Don't really know what I'm on about - but I'm not scared by the > >> >> > > machine possibilities and suspect somewhere in this I don;t > believe > >> >> > > we > >> >> > > are human yet - and might only become so with machine help. > >> >> > >> >> > > Time to unleash the hound! > >> >> > > On Jan 23, 6:56 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> sounds like a great dog Neil > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:58 AM, archytas <[email protected]> > >> >> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> > Maxwell is a stubby-legged Labrador and a bit of a wimp. > He's a > >> >> > >> > sweetie. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > On Jan 22, 1:40 pm, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> My last was a lab-shepherd with high energy till he grew old- > >> >> > >> >> age 13. > >> >> > >> >> Also had a Chesapeake Bay retriever- another large dog that > >> >> > >> >> loves > >> >> > >> >> water. I have a large backyard but he really needed a field- > >> >> > >> >> stream- > >> >> > >> >> woods,etc. This cold is hard on paws- some fit their dogs > with > >> >> > >> >> sweaters and booties.//Yes- it does seem the Brits collapse > in > >> >> > >> >> snow > >> >> > >> >> and unusual weather but it's a strange year- even Jerusalem > >> >> > >> >> could make > >> >> > >> >> snowmen this year. Anyway- happy travels today. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Jan 22, 12:56 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Max loves the snow - though we rarely drop much below > >> >> > >> >> > freezing here > >> >> > >> >> > even with wind-chill. I'm off into Manchester today, > >> >> > >> >> > assuming out > >> >> > >> >> > trains run on a quarter of an inch of snow, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Jan 22, 1:07 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > brrr. We might be there overnight. The deep freeze. > >> >> > >> >> > > Wonderful > >> >> > >> >> > > world. We move through it regardless. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > On Jan 21, 10:24 am, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > My earlier post has been diverted to outer space, it > >> >> > >> >> > > > seems. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > That loneliness may be a cover, you know. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > Saul Bellow was a rascal. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > The speed of information leads to surprise and a > protean > >> >> > >> >> > > > miss, often. > >> >> > >> >> > > > I look for patterns in history/culture and try to keep > >> >> > >> >> > > > two columns- > >> >> > >> >> > > > pro and con with hope for the margins. The top tiers of > >> >> > >> >> > > > government are > >> >> > >> >> > > > usually the culprits rather than their off-spring- and > >> >> > >> >> > > > it's true of > >> >> > >> >> > > > tribes as well as complicated systems- the buck really > >> >> > >> >> > > > does stop- even > >> >> > >> >> > > > in suitcases of cash and packets of Viagra. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > My "dog" would need diapers- we're at -30 wind chill > >> >> > >> >> > > > factor. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > On Jan 21, 6:10 am, archytas <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > > Of course, I don't expect anything tangled-up with > >> >> > >> >> > > > > government and > >> >> > >> >> > > > > academic bureaucracy to produce much practical. The > >> >> > >> >> > > > > gist was once > >> >> > >> >> > > > > that we should aim for praxis, a form of rational > >> >> > >> >> > > > > action. For some > >> >> > >> >> > > > > the guide was marxism, but most of us grew up with a > >> >> > >> >> > > > > form of Keynesian > >> >> > >> >> > > > > guide - the economics of full employment and FDR's > >> >> > >> >> > > > > never completed > >> >> > >> >> > > > > second Bill of Rights. More recently we have > reverted > >> >> > >> >> > > > > to the control > >> >> > >> >> > > > > fraud of banksters and neo-classical economics. I > was > >> >> > >> >> > > > > never much > >> >> > >> >> > > > > interested in the 'grand theory' - as a cop I was > more > >> >> > >> >> > > > > interested in > >> >> > >> >> > > > > what people were hiding and lying about, as scientist > >> >> > >> >> > > > > the grand was > >> >> > >> >> > > > > excluded as rigorously as possible a the laboratory > >> >> > >> >> > > > > door and as a > >> >> > >> >> > > > > university teacher I was more interested in > developing > >> >> > >> >> > > > > resourceful > >> >> > >> >> > > > > humans than daft, religious managerial theories. As > a > >> >> > >> >> > > > > kid, my elder > >> >> > >> >> > > > > brother and sister always claimed I changed the > >> >> > >> >> > > > > goalposts in argument > >> >> > >> >> > > > > and as I grew up I discovered this was what argument > >> >> > >> >> > > > > was generally > >> >> > >> >> > > > > about - the goalposts changing name to root metaphor > >> >> > >> >> > > > > and paradigm. > >> >> > >> >> > > > > Experts in argument are bought like lawyers and have > >> >> > >> >> > > > > about the same > >> >> > >> >> > > > > ethics. When Socrates gestures at the Sophists > >> >> > >> >> > > > > claiming 'I know > >> >> > >> >> > > > > nothing, but even this is to know more than they' he > is > >> >> > >> >> > > > > just being the > >> >> > >> >> > > > > smartest guy in the room. > >> >> > >> >> > > > > We say 'jaw-jaw' is better than 'war-war' - but there > >> >> > >> >> > > > > is no crucial > >> >> > >> >> > > > > experiment to decide in 'jaw-jaw'. The problem with > >> >> > >> >> > > > > argument is that > >> >> > >> >> > > > > it needs arbitration if human beings are involved in > it > >> >> > >> >> > > > > and the seeds > >> >> > >> >> > > > > of its own destruction are laid in most people having > >> >> > >> >> > > > > no training in > >> >> > >> >> > > > > how it is constructed. If you get some training in > >> >> > >> >> > > > > this you can be > >> >> > >> >> > > > > bought like a lawyer as a mouthpiece. Machine > >> >> > >> >> > > > > knowledge bases and > >> >> > >> >> > > > > reasoning capacity potentially offer a > democratisation > >> >> > >> >> > > > > of argument > >> >> > >> >> > > > > expertise, manufacturing capability, medicine, > finance > >> >> > >> >> > > > > and much more - > >> >> > >> >> > > > > evidence-based practice for all. In practice, doing > >> >> > >> >> > > > > management > >> >> > >> >> > > > > information systems, one soon learns those currently > in > >> >> > >> >> > > > > the know want > >> >> > >> >> > > > > to keep things that way. I believe > >> >> > >> >> ... > >> >> > >> >> read more ยป > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ( > >> ) > >> |_D Allan > >> > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > >> > >> Of course I talk to myself, > >> Sometimes I need expert advice.. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > Of course I talk to myself, > Sometimes I need expert advice.. > > -- > > > > --
