People confuse the term "Don't judge". A judge does not decide guilt or innocence. We can determine a person to be right or wrong. A judge simply renders a sentence.
On Monday, October 20, 2014 12:36:25 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: > > The problem with revenge is karma for soul gets because revenge is an act > involving dharma. > > The problem with revenge is it requires an act of judging another person. > In beliefs I ask to be judged as I judge, :-)I prefer not to judge because > I am not the best of people with many short comings. > > Allan > A Living Soul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected] <javascript:>> > To: [email protected] <javascript:> > Sent: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge > > I agree with RP really - yet the classic pep talk in rugby was 'get the > retaliation in first'. Sometimes, we confuse revenge with setting things > right. > > On Monday, 20 October 2014 16:51:45 UTC+1, RP Singh wrote: >> >> Revenge never yields anything , the thing is that we remove ourselves >> from further harm in a manner howsoever possible. Getting satisfaction from >> retribution is primitive , not to be indulged in. >> >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Molly <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >>> It is one thing to have such thoughts when we perceive that we have been >>> wronged, it is another to sell on the thoughts and still another to act on >>> it. Usually, it is the thought that we have been wronged that needs >>> examining because more often than not, we do not have all the facts or >>> misinterpreted someones intention or other confusion in our own >>> perception. That leaves us with the cases, like someone murdered, that are >>> more clear cut. >>> >>> My interpretation of the christian "turn the other cheek" is that it >>> requires us to gain perspective and look for the bigger picture. >>> Sometimes, having more information about the circumstance will give us >>> this, sometimes not. Forgiveness and turning the other cheek does not >>> require us to continue to be wronged again and again, or to deem the >>> behavior "right" or justifiable. It does require us, after we remove >>> ourselves from harm, to see all life as sacred and changing, and reconnect >>> with our own love of life, in spite of the sorrow and horror in the world. >>> Anyone who can do this once, can do it again. If we do it enough, we can >>> sustain it. If it becomes our natural state, we've found a way to live this >>> life with peace in our hearts. No small task. >>> >>> On Monday, October 20, 2014 7:50:36 AM UTC-4, pol.science kid wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah .. the thing is.. we think that some people deserve the hurt they >>>> get... might be from us.. or from someone else... how do we restore >>>> balance.. what intrigues me is forgiveness.. do you think someone can >>>> forgive the murder of their loved one... or some great financial/material >>>> loss... now Gandhi comes to my mind.. i never quite agree with his >>>> thought.. although having been instructed on him since school.. he >>>> believes >>>> the turn the other cheek Christianity virtue... but its just so hard to >>>> conceive... maybe we cant escape our moral judgement world in any way.. >>>> maybe we take revenge becos we think we owe it to ourselves the defense >>>> against wrong.. really confusing stuff all this.. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:23 AM, archytas <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chimps do revenge - if you inject one as a vet it will bite you if >>>>> given the chance over the next couple of days. Films give us a sense of >>>>> justice from revenge, though examples I've seen in reality have been >>>>> pathetic and misguided. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, 19 October 2014 19:18:30 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem today is there is little to be ashamed about, the >>>>>> mentality seems to lead to what one can get away with. The only shame is >>>>>> in >>>>>> getting caught..:-) >>>>>> >>>>>> That is the political moral standard demonstrated by many >>>>>> politicians, business and religious leaders today. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Allan >>>>>> A Living Soul >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>>>> To: [email protected] <javascript:> >>>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 3:59 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge >>>>>> >>>>>> The moral gauge I suggest to kids is "never do anything you would not >>>>>> want everyone to know about." The age of transparency. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:35:46 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When the blind follow the blind they both will fall into a pit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looking at the justification for moral values little should surprise >>>>>>> anyone. The actions vs talk how can there be morals. I was talking with >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> daughter and she made the comment to me that was an honor yet kind of >>>>>>> strange. When she had a situation that she did not know how to deal >>>>>>> with it >>>>>>> she always asked herself how would my Dad handle it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Who are the moral compasses today? Who are our guides? Or is it >>>>>>> simply does it really matter as all there is what one sees? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>> A Living Soul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] <javascript:> >>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 3:09 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Revenge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know what percentage of humanity is capable or observing >>>>>>> self and correcting self, but the longer I live, the smaller I think >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> number may be. As I look around, i see so many of the people around me >>>>>>> acting out their emotions (revenge among them) on others. Not always >>>>>>> easy >>>>>>> to see if they know just what they are doing and why. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:28:54 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Complex stuff Pol. I get the feelings, but can't remember doing >>>>>>>> much about them. Politicians raise it in me as soon as their lips >>>>>>>> move. >>>>>>>> So does my grandson (currently idle, smelly teenager), though 'tough >>>>>>>> love' >>>>>>>> doesn't appeal. Academic criticism often feels a form of it and a lot >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> projection and ad hom is involved. In my time, cops used to beat up >>>>>>>> sex >>>>>>>> offenders, largely on the basis the court system didn't work. I used >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> pursue them for other crimes. There is nothing more exhilarating than >>>>>>>> pointing out the flaws in others (from the movie Clerks), a sort of >>>>>>>> revenge. Many lecturing colleagues took revenge out on students - >>>>>>>> education generally looks pretty nasty to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I like to think I can walk away from it, as in not retaliating in >>>>>>>> rugby, but I always did within the rules. Human behaviour is so dire >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> might be in a constant state of vendetta. In films the black hats are >>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>> up as so bad they deserve what they get. In reality, we tend to take >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>> revenge on powerless victims. Child sexual exploitation may be an >>>>>>>> example. The victim is usually subject to multiple acts of revenge >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> supposedly decent people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, 19 October 2014 12:13:23 UTC+1, pol.science kid wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was on the internet.. and just came across this tv series called >>>>>>>>> "revenge".. and i was thinking... are we capable of not taking >>>>>>>>> revenge.. >>>>>>>>> regarding matters that affect us too deeply... i have pretty mean >>>>>>>>> vengeful >>>>>>>>> feelings when i feel i have been wronged unjustly.. of course when i >>>>>>>>> cant >>>>>>>>> do anything in the situation i act out my revenge mentally.. plan >>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>> to get back to the person ... its quite a revelation when you think >>>>>>>>> yourself quite a decent person.. What do you guys think of revenge.. >>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>> dealt with in every movie and television series or novel.. and of >>>>>>>>> course >>>>>>>>> what our instructive morality from 'elders' says is that do not take >>>>>>>>> revenge.. But i think forgiveness is a capacity.. and we are so >>>>>>>>> inclined >>>>>>>>> for revenge.. Since most of you have pretty varied experience in >>>>>>>>> life.. >>>>>>>>> Have any of you ever taken revenge.. or decided not to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> EverComing >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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