Freud is full of fairytales RP. I believe in conscious redirection too, though 'personality', 'consciousness', 'the unconscious' and so on are strictly fairytale. With wolves and silver foxes one finds a one percent sample that lack aggression that let's us breed it out - leading to cutipie dogs - the genetics have much more to do with this than human nurture. I know of a paedophile cured once his brain tumour was removed. Remember symbolic interactionism? I guess we need a coherent understanding of the individual, habitus and habit-over-mind, culture and rationality - plus the ways these are feigned, produced and reproduced. It might be easier to view the Bible as a diagramme of some sort (whatever) in order to evade the complexity.
On Friday, 14 November 2014 11:29:58 UTC, RP Singh wrote: > > Neil, admitted that heredity and environment play a big role in the making > of our feelings and thought processes , yet conscious effort made with the > correct understanding can change the way of our habitual actions and > reactions. Freud, with his psycho-analysis successfully treated many > neurotics and I think that we can get out of our habitual emotions, and > thinking if we make conscious effort in the right direction. > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:11 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Much sympathy with the view RP, though genetics-epigenetics plays a big >> role in such as aggression. I think Tony gets to a lot of the art issues. >> Habit has chronic effects. >> >> >> On Friday, November 14, 2014 4:19:50 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>> >>> We are prone to keep certain feelings in our heart as a response to >>> others' behavior , it is habitual to us and if we change this habit >>> gradually by removing such reactions , our behavior will change. The way we >>> feel and think governs the way we act , our temperament will change if we >>> change this habitual thinking and emotions. >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:10 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Mostly temperament is made up of habits , Neil, you change them and the >>>> personality changes. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:48 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Biology has changing temperament as very difficult RP. I've never >>>>> thought much of shifting heavy stones about for science or religion. The >>>>> point of anthropology for me is to work out just how stone age we remain. >>>>> >>>>> Science wins hands down for me against religion of any kind, but only up >>>>> to >>>>> a point. There's a lot of stuff that isn't science that has fairytales - >>>>> sort of basic fictions aimed more at ways if living rather than the >>>>> empirical adequacy of science. Freud's 'depressive' rather than >>>>> 'paranoid-schizoid' position to view the world is one example - and >>>>> rather >>>>> like RP's. >>>>> >>>>> The problem that arises for me in most religion is lack of critical >>>>> fellowship and the presence of gooey nodding donkey agreement as proof. >>>>> I >>>>> regularly meet people who have read even less of the Bible than me saying >>>>> it is wonderful. I am not sure the real fairytales of religion are made >>>>> clear at all in the way they are examined in science. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:33:31 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good point RP. So we'll just leave it at that, criticism. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
