We must keep on trying to improve our nature because it is through it that
we act. We must use all means and methods that we can devise and , Neil ,
one day , if God be willing , we will succeed. So it is with that hope and
resolve we should strive for the betterment of the generations to come.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:18 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Freud is full of fairytales RP.  I believe in conscious redirection too,
> though 'personality', 'consciousness', 'the unconscious' and so on are
> strictly fairytale.  With wolves and silver foxes one finds a one percent
> sample that lack aggression that let's us breed it out - leading to cutipie
> dogs - the genetics have much more to do with this than human nurture.  I
> know of a paedophile cured once his brain tumour was removed.  Remember
> symbolic interactionism?  I guess we need a coherent understanding of the
> individual, habitus and habit-over-mind, culture and rationality - plus the
> ways these are feigned, produced and reproduced.  It might be easier to
> view the Bible as a diagramme of some sort (whatever) in order to evade the
> complexity.
>
> On Friday, 14 November 2014 11:29:58 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> Neil, admitted that heredity and environment play a big role in the
>> making of our feelings and thought processes , yet conscious effort made
>> with the correct understanding can change the way of our habitual actions
>> and reactions. Freud, with his psycho-analysis successfully treated many
>> neurotics and I think that we can get out of our habitual emotions,  and
>> thinking if we make conscious effort in the right direction.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:11 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Much sympathy with the view RP, though genetics-epigenetics plays a big
>>> role in such as aggression.  I think Tony gets to a lot of the art issues.
>>> Habit has chronic effects.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 14, 2014 4:19:50 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We are prone to keep certain feelings in our heart as a response to
>>>> others' behavior , it is habitual to us and if we change this habit
>>>> gradually by removing such reactions , our behavior will change. The way we
>>>> feel and think governs the way we act , our temperament will change if we
>>>> change this habitual thinking and emotions.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:10 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mostly temperament is made up of habits , Neil, you change them and
>>>>> the personality changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:48 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Biology has changing temperament as very difficult RP.  I've never
>>>>>> thought much of shifting heavy stones about for science or religion.  The
>>>>>> point of anthropology for me is to work out just how stone age we remain.
>>>>>> Science wins hands down for me against religion of any kind, but only up 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> a point.  There's a lot of stuff that isn't science that has fairytales -
>>>>>> sort of basic fictions aimed more at ways if living rather than the
>>>>>> empirical adequacy of science.  Freud's 'depressive' rather than
>>>>>> 'paranoid-schizoid' position to view the world is one example - and 
>>>>>> rather
>>>>>> like RP's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem that arises for me in most religion is lack of critical
>>>>>> fellowship and the presence of gooey nodding donkey agreement as proof.  
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> regularly meet people who have read even less of the Bible than me saying
>>>>>> it is wonderful.  I am not sure the real fairytales of religion are made
>>>>>> clear at all in the way they are examined in science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:33:31 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good point RP.  So we'll just leave it at that, criticism.
>>>>>>>
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