That sums it up well RP. I guess we are always living outside immediate time in consciousness of the conscious kind.
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 12:34:08 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote: > > Conscious thinking leaves a greater imprint than unconscious thinking. > Controls exercised by conscious will are many times more powerful than > thinking on an unconscious level. To change our nature it is better to make > conscious effort. > It is through our nature that all thoughts and actions arise , though it > is known that even the will to change arises from our nature and is innate > in us. Yet we have to strive such is the paradox. > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:21 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I get that bit RP. In another sense one might wonder on decisions being >> made unconsciously long before we rationalise them, bringing up other >> questions on where free will lies, even what has it. Your scheme leaves >> plenty of room for it in the general sense. In the ants I used to study, >> much behaviour is controlled by 'smells'. Human behaviour in cultures can >> look very similar. Leadership rarely allows free will in followers other >> than to follow. >> >> >> On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 00:36:55 UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>> >>> Choice is there where you can do otherwise , Neil. God has to do what he >>> does and hence no choice. We conscious beings are always doubtful , to do >>> this or that , the more confident we are, the less hesitant even if wrong. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:43 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> God might need that touch of malevolence to have his own free will - >>>> once totally rational and good you just have to do the right thing. RP >>>> has >>>> hit his version will a piece of three by two to evade this issue - so we >>>> are like those toys that come out to play at night only 24/7. Both Tony >>>> and RP have that touch of the Lords of Cosmic Jest about them too. >>>> >>>> Multiverse theory arose when a humanities undergraduate overheard a >>>> drunken conversation between Wheeler and Everitt on why their sums never >>>> added up. They were really talking about normalisation and >>>> re-normalisation, but if all you knew about reality was Jane Eyre and that >>>> the Greeks and Romans were the good guys of history, some dumb joke about >>>> multiple universes with no need to do complex maths is what you'd remember >>>> - particularly if they had enough beer to offer you a few. Myriad >>>> universes, even in this dud non-theory, are created every time we make a >>>> tiny measurement, identical to this universe except for the measurement. >>>> The god of this lot would be too busy to laugh at we jesters, clowns and >>>> mug punters and not know which jar to look in. The humanities graduate as >>>> pretty, so John and Hugh spun a long yarn. Eventually it became string >>>> theory and Pat had god lodged in Kaliber Yawn space, where beer is alcohol >>>> free. >>>> >>>> Me? I'm off to play with the unicorns at the bottom of Allan's >>>> garden. They are atheists to a man-jack. With all that horn, they know >>>> any generous omnipotent being would have created female unicorns too. >>>> Fetch a flask out Allan, I gave mine to some cold Pixies on the way from >>>> Schipol. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, 19 January 2015 23:38:16 UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Tough old world Wonder if the god in Tony's picture ever thougt to >>>>> ask what the people not listening think? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Doesn't need to know. Why is the universe so big? One scenario is >>>>> that all of these possibilities are being played out right now in an >>>>> almost >>>>> infinite number of worlds. Each world have similar enough Bio-form to be >>>>> a >>>>> blueprint for the next. That's how I would do it if I were playing God. >>>>> Put them in a jar, shake it up, and see if they fight. I am of course >>>>> impugning a degree of maliciousness, but who has the moral full house >>>>> against two of a kind? >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
