Consciousness is always working with events that have passed ans so is 
ahead of time.  As for walls, on tends to bounce off their electro-magnetic 
force - the same force that keeps most of our feet on the ground.  Float 
over for cheese and biscuits any time, preferably yesterday.

On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 10:01:27 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> Time is a companion that travels with us every moment never to return 
> again and should be cherished. 
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 9:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: History
>
> That sums it up well RP.  I guess we are always living outside immediate 
> time in consciousness of the conscious kind.
>
> On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 12:34:08 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> Conscious thinking leaves a greater imprint than unconscious thinking. 
>> Controls exercised by conscious will are many times more powerful than 
>> thinking on an unconscious level. To change our nature it is better to make 
>> conscious effort.
>> It is through our nature that all thoughts and actions arise , though it 
>> is known that even the will to change arises from our nature and is innate 
>> in us. Yet we have to strive such is the paradox.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:21 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I get that bit RP.  In another sense one might wonder on decisions being 
>>> made unconsciously long before we rationalise them, bringing up other 
>>> questions on where free will lies, even what has it.  Your scheme leaves 
>>> plenty of room for it in the general sense.  In the ants I used to study, 
>>> much behaviour is controlled by 'smells'.  Human behaviour in cultures can 
>>> look very similar.  Leadership rarely allows free will in followers other 
>>> than to follow.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 00:36:55 UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Choice is there where you can do otherwise , Neil. God has to do what 
>>>> he does and hence no choice. We conscious beings are always doubtful , to 
>>>> do this or that , the more confident we are, the less hesitant  even if 
>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:43 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> God might need that touch of malevolence to have his own free will - 
>>>>> once totally rational and good you just have to do the right thing.  RP 
>>>>> has 
>>>>> hit his version will a piece of three by two to evade this issue - so we 
>>>>> are like those toys that come out to play at night only 24/7.  Both Tony 
>>>>> and RP have that touch of the Lords of Cosmic Jest about them too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Multiverse theory arose when a humanities undergraduate overheard a 
>>>>> drunken conversation between Wheeler and Everitt on why their sums never 
>>>>> added up.  They were really talking about normalisation and 
>>>>> re-normalisation, but if all you knew about reality was Jane Eyre and 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> the Greeks and Romans were the good guys of history, some dumb joke about 
>>>>> multiple universes with no need to do complex maths is what you'd 
>>>>> remember 
>>>>> - particularly if they had enough beer to offer you a few.  Myriad 
>>>>> universes, even in this dud non-theory, are created every time we make a 
>>>>> tiny measurement, identical to this universe except for the measurement.  
>>>>> The god of this lot would be too busy to laugh at we jesters, clowns and 
>>>>> mug punters and not know which jar to look in.  The humanities graduate 
>>>>> as 
>>>>> pretty, so John and Hugh spun a long yarn.  Eventually it became string 
>>>>> theory and Pat had god lodged in Kaliber Yawn space, where beer is 
>>>>> alcohol 
>>>>> free.
>>>>>
>>>>> Me?  I'm off to play with the unicorns at the bottom of Allan's 
>>>>> garden.  They are atheists to a man-jack.  With all that horn, they know 
>>>>> any generous omnipotent being would have created female unicorns too.  
>>>>> Fetch a flask out Allan, I gave mine to some cold Pixies on the way from 
>>>>> Schipol. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, 19 January 2015 23:38:16 UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tough old world  Wonder if the god in Tony's picture ever thougt to 
>>>>>> ask what the people not listening think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't need to know. Why is the universe so big?  One scenario is 
>>>>>> that all of these possibilities are being played out right now in an 
>>>>>> almost 
>>>>>> infinite number of worlds.  Each world have similar enough Bio-form to 
>>>>>> be a 
>>>>>> blueprint for the next.  That's how I would do it if I were playing God. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Put them in a jar, shake it up, and see if they fight.  I am of course 
>>>>>> impugning a degree of maliciousness, but who has the moral full house 
>>>>>> against two of a kind?  
>>>>>>
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