I am a fan of doubting Thomas too.. cool dude he went into Egypt and India. You can read his teachings in the Gospel of Thomas.. Coptic teachings from what I understand.. someone wrote down what he said and taught. It is very interesting as they are the only writing directly attributed to sn actual apostle of Jesus.. saul of tarsus commonly know as paul never even met Jesus. . Peter and the other actual apostles didn't care much for him from what I understand.. The Christian gospels the earliest some 60 years after Jesus's death there are a lot of historical record problems. . Like paul's miracle cure from a poisonous snake bite.. archological record indicate there are no poisonous snakes inhabiting Malta.. . Leaves doubt. A lot of conclusion jumping. Old testement and moses.. love it archeology is showing the pyramids were built by labour unions. . Definitely not slaves So what it comes download to is truth and what is fable.. easy to justify what you find of value the rest throw in storage it may make sense later.. I am lucky as i have no problems with the existence of God due to psychotic episodes i choose to call spiritual experience(s)..l am a great believer in sharing as everyone ones has a gift(s) to contribute.
As for education IQ test have some good qualities but they only show part of the truth. As for education. My Dad did his doctorate in education. .. as my dad associate professor at the time all the professor brats were subjected doctoral research testing.. amazing what kids can learn.. lol poor teachers. What we learned you do not teach teenagers. . Society has its problems lack of internal guidance is a major problem. I like what has and is being said. Very positve and uplifting. I think we are on a good start. تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: archytas <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Moral compass Molly - we've been friends too long for you to think I mean this in any nasty sense - but this is also the fascist credo. Quite obviously not what you mean and something I'm sure you stand against. Once you have the light, not grounded in Reason, it excuses anything. Reason itself is even problematic once one becomes so sure you have it. Candy rots teeth. We might get round the problems with love. It didn't help Moses any with the Midianites and seems a rather vain hope. I had a friend who wished she had been born good. Temptation to the directive light is obvious. Yet this and other 'inner subjective' claims are the easiest to lie about. Of course, the only enlivening part of the Bible for me was Doubting Thomas. I suppose number one for me is wondering whether the preacher is any different from a double-glazing salesman. Heidegger argues that, in the present crisis, we are waiting for a god who will reawaken us to the poetic, and thereby enable us to dwell in the fourfold. This task certainly seems to be a noble one. Unfortunately, however, it plunges us into the murkiest and most controversial region of the Heideggerian intellectual landscape, his infamous involvement with Nazism. Heidegger sometimes seems to use the term ‘god’ or ‘divinity’ to refer to a heroic figure (a cultural template) who may initiate (or help to initiate) a transformational event in the history of Being by opening up an alternative clearing. These heroic figures are the grounders of the abyss, the restorers of sacredness (Allan's avatars, perhaps). Which brings me to my second. I want to know from real history, not text rendered holy. This may be because I'm Protestant and don't like priests telling me where to learn from. Molly always get me going! On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 12:09:48 PM UTC, Molly wrote: > > At some point, we give up all the do nots and live according to a guiding > light (is it a principle?) that needs no words, but includes all creation > in love. (sacred heart of Christ? Am sure each form of faith has a symbol > for it) Until we know this (and have to feel it first) creeds and moral > compasses, affirmations and mantras, candy in many forms sweetens the pot > we sit on. > > On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 6:55:20 AM UTC-5, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> The objective is a social experiment.. starting with a moral guideline. >> Or as RP put it creed which is probably Is better word to use.. >> >> I have cut and pasted the different moral guides members use in day to >> day life.. they are submitted for easier study. >> >> Love the Allfather with my whole Soul & being... >> Love my neighbor as myself >> As I judge other so too will I be judge >> Do No Harm >> Avoid murder, rape or enslavement of others >> Avoid being enslaved by possessions >> >> Molly :-) >> It’s a Sufi saying: Before you speak, let your words pass through three >> gates. At the first gate, ask yourself ‘Is is true.’ At the second gate >> ask, ‘Is it necessary.’ At the third gate ask, ‘Is it kind. >> >> RP :-) >> My moral compass >> Don't fear anything , but use your reasoning faculty to do the right >> thing. >> do not covet but earn and save for the needs of yourself and family. >> Do not be lustful but be happy with your spouse. >> Do not be arrogant but respect yourself and others. >> Don't be angry but take care to do your duties. >> >> Chris: >> If it harms none, do as you will. :-) >> >> Neil: >> I don't really do creed Allan. Found too many people who talk them and >> mean none. >> >> Molly made a comment about the end of my own submission which I thought >> was valid so I chopped it.. only because it was my own submission I felt >> free to modify without group input. >> >> All of the submissions I found fascinating. The award for the most >> original goes to RP. The difference in cultures shows up well. His >> submission is extremely honest.. Molly's is an excellent way of handing the >> events of day to day basis. Chris's guide is another of wicca in general (a >> poor attempt humor) ☆ "burning at the stake is not allowed" . Neil's no >> guideline and reasons given are very valid, showing effort not to fall into >> te next category. >> >> This category can maybe best described as a cork (being nice) floating >> in the ocean of humanity being tossed around by whichever direction the >> wind is blowing or the current flowing caught within the gyres of greed >> and selfishness fostered by the news, games and entertainment. >> >> To have a successful experiment we need to design a common moral >> guidelines for the experiment. So gentle people start your shredders. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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