I was waiting for the cunning Tony.  Obi-wan Kenobi is a management trick, 
like Poga-Oke (more or less 'fool-proofing).  I understand it materialises 
the St Michael.

You are right.  Chimps do some basic season worship and scrub-jays hold 
funerals.  Religion origins long before the book.

On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:00:19 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
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> Neil pulled an "Obi-wan Kenobi"…You don't need to define big Religions.
>
> I don't think any religion started as some bit to control the masses since 
> at the time the "masses" were very small. Thats a re-write of history based 
> on current perception of Opiate for the masses saturation.
>
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