Sadly, dear one, I understand that Mutti would be more likely to take me to 
a rugby match than you, which I'm sure you know rather puts me off the game 
despite last night's thrilling 22 - all draw,  Allan and I are merely the 
horse in a production of Don Quixote, taking turns at the front in our 
democratic pantomime.  Mutti is a shoe-in for the windmill.  In these times 
of Mollygon, we will have to re-write Sancho Panza to accommodate your 
dagger and less down to earth act.  Tony is the only one with enough metal 
to make the Don's lance.  The horse is the only one who knows what is going 
on, and of course, the front is not designated to the one of us in a sane 
period but by lot,

It would be obvious to you, with your special knowledge of the characters' 
intentionality.  Allan and I merely act out the lines we are given and have 
not met the author, unless this is you, which looks rather likely given how 
well you claim to know our inner motivations.  With Moll off playing the 
lead in the Wizard of Oz in her plan to re-establish an international 
bi-metallic standard paradox and embrace your direction. 

On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 10:30:08 AM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>
> To me it is obvious how Allan cannot "resist" you and how you yourself are 
> caught up in your historical debts. And I know that I shouldn't be saying 
> that for it makes me sound even more Mutti.
>
> Am Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas :
>
>> Religion to me is like being on the same page of Alice in Wonderland, 
>> whilst trying to plot a course to Mars, or reading of turning the other 
>> cheek in infantry training with Genghis already scouting our side of the 
>> river.  Paedophiles in the priesthood, swing some incense, learn to take 
>> the genocidal and chronic statements about women not literally.  This is 
>> life under the pheromones of the slave ant queen and the Inquisition of 
>> hive hygiene.
>>
>> I tortured Allan the other day, with a 45 minute video of a chronic 
>> female patroniser telling us to adhere to a philosophy good if you are a 
>> slave or in a POW camp. She works at Yale, where economists learn to build 
>> the slave society and special camps.  Could have been worse, old friend, as 
>> I'd just read Numbers 31.  Well worth a watch, I'm sure Allan will agree, 
>> if you are terrorised by the thought a shop might not have broccoli when 
>> you have put it on your shopping list.  You have to stop worrying about 
>> things beyond the remit of self, like broccoli supply or economic change 
>> (but stick with broccoli shortage, better not let too much reality in).
>>
>> I'm with Pol on this one, though attending chimp pagan rites and bush-jay 
>> funerals in search of some better origin.  The mad and often vile, 
>> not-to-be-taken-literally pages to all be on, of an obscure antiquity 
>> gewarted to a presence under incense and chanting, to the exclusion of what 
>> matters - how like economics - is not for me.  I have an aversion to men in 
>> skirts and silly hats, once they start asking me for money for good causes 
>> they never eradicate.
>>
>> Getting down to a ritual seasonal dance with the chimps, perhaps with 
>> Gabby scoffing at my lack of primal skill, or wondering if scrub-jays feel 
>> sorrow in my sombre remembrance and fellowship on loss, is more my 
>> religious scene.  I hope a jubilee and launch of a modern world is coming 
>> in religious fashion, aware of the Gnosis of the Cathar hurling herself 
>> into the pit-fire made by loving Catholics in the hope nothingness is 
>> better than this hell on Earth.  Religion was once about freedom from 
>> debt.  Like everything with origin, it is noble and ignoble.
>>
>> Tony's quest in hermeneutics (a common word amongst my criminal brethren, 
>> lest Gabby hear privilege) for original meaning - no apple, no snake, yet a 
>> talking serpent - dies in sacred book that may not be original in any sense 
>> his art achieves (how is the latest coming?).  What is religion in 
>> primitive societies we have been able to witness in the 'world until 
>> yesterday' and our own history not written by sycophantic charlatans 
>> copying their own past in misogynist language not to be taken literally in 
>> the future?
>>
>> Don't look, whatever you do.  It spoils that selfish bliss of the 
>> embraced paradox of ignorance on the same page.  The Church of England, now 
>> run by a businessman who knows the business case for female bishops, wanted 
>> its tithes paid in the great recession.  Our fascists were mobilised to 
>> prevent evictions. Sometimes, one must choose a lesser evil.  How did the 
>> religionists not know their own vile behaviour, when a few (presumably 
>> equally bemused) stout lads could see the rotten core?  Religion might be 
>> many useful things (Molly's therapy is an example, Lee's 'seeking', Allan's 
>> 'conservative heresy).  These lights are sadly hidden under a bushel.
>>
>> My thanks to Allan for 'sending over some Dutch-accented chimps' to 
>> Scotland.  Initially, all was lost in translation in their communication 
>> with my fellow Scottish Pagans, but the lads and lasses soon converted to 
>> our local religion and language.  Humans lack their language skills and 
>> abilities in getting on in diversity.  The chimps are now rejecting the 
>> religion of the book in guttural Glaswegian.  It seems they prefer apples 
>> to promises from the sacred same page.  Bless their little cotton socks, 
>> they have asked me to commission something really arty from Tony they can 
>> eat, while they paint the scenarios I relate.  The vicar pops by to play 
>> ball games with them, as he did in recognising me as a hopeless case for 
>> indoctrination other than as an opening batsman. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 3:45:11 AM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Wikipedia.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 3:40:25 AM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was waiting for the cunning Tony.  Obi-wan Kenobi is a management 
>>>> trick, like Poga-Oke (more or less 'fool-proofing).  I understand it 
>>>> materialises the St Michael.
>>>>
>>>> You are right.  Chimps do some basic season worship and scrub-jays hold 
>>>> funerals.  Religion origins long before the book.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:00:19 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil pulled an "Obi-wan Kenobi"…You don't need to define big Religions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think any religion started as some bit to control the masses 
>>>>> since at the time the "masses" were very small. Thats a re-write of 
>>>>> history 
>>>>> based on current perception of Opiate for the masses saturation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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