To me it is obvious how Allan cannot "resist" you and how you yourself are
caught up in your historical debts. And I know that I shouldn't be saying
that for it makes me sound even more Mutti.

Am Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas :

> Religion to me is like being on the same page of Alice in Wonderland,
> whilst trying to plot a course to Mars, or reading of turning the other
> cheek in infantry training with Genghis already scouting our side of the
> river.  Paedophiles in the priesthood, swing some incense, learn to take
> the genocidal and chronic statements about women not literally.  This is
> life under the pheromones of the slave ant queen and the Inquisition of
> hive hygiene.
>
> I tortured Allan the other day, with a 45 minute video of a chronic female
> patroniser telling us to adhere to a philosophy good if you are a slave or
> in a POW camp. She works at Yale, where economists learn to build the slave
> society and special camps.  Could have been worse, old friend, as I'd just
> read Numbers 31.  Well worth a watch, I'm sure Allan will agree, if you are
> terrorised by the thought a shop might not have broccoli when you have put
> it on your shopping list.  You have to stop worrying about things beyond
> the remit of self, like broccoli supply or economic change (but stick with
> broccoli shortage, better not let too much reality in).
>
> I'm with Pol on this one, though attending chimp pagan rites and bush-jay
> funerals in search of some better origin.  The mad and often vile,
> not-to-be-taken-literally pages to all be on, of an obscure antiquity
> gewarted to a presence under incense and chanting, to the exclusion of what
> matters - how like economics - is not for me.  I have an aversion to men in
> skirts and silly hats, once they start asking me for money for good causes
> they never eradicate.
>
> Getting down to a ritual seasonal dance with the chimps, perhaps with
> Gabby scoffing at my lack of primal skill, or wondering if scrub-jays feel
> sorrow in my sombre remembrance and fellowship on loss, is more my
> religious scene.  I hope a jubilee and launch of a modern world is coming
> in religious fashion, aware of the Gnosis of the Cathar hurling herself
> into the pit-fire made by loving Catholics in the hope nothingness is
> better than this hell on Earth.  Religion was once about freedom from
> debt.  Like everything with origin, it is noble and ignoble.
>
> Tony's quest in hermeneutics (a common word amongst my criminal brethren,
> lest Gabby hear privilege) for original meaning - no apple, no snake, yet a
> talking serpent - dies in sacred book that may not be original in any sense
> his art achieves (how is the latest coming?).  What is religion in
> primitive societies we have been able to witness in the 'world until
> yesterday' and our own history not written by sycophantic charlatans
> copying their own past in misogynist language not to be taken literally in
> the future?
>
> Don't look, whatever you do.  It spoils that selfish bliss of the embraced
> paradox of ignorance on the same page.  The Church of England, now run by a
> businessman who knows the business case for female bishops, wanted its
> tithes paid in the great recession.  Our fascists were mobilised to prevent
> evictions. Sometimes, one must choose a lesser evil.  How did the
> religionists not know their own vile behaviour, when a few (presumably
> equally bemused) stout lads could see the rotten core?  Religion might be
> many useful things (Molly's therapy is an example, Lee's 'seeking', Allan's
> 'conservative heresy).  These lights are sadly hidden under a bushel.
>
> My thanks to Allan for 'sending over some Dutch-accented chimps' to
> Scotland.  Initially, all was lost in translation in their communication
> with my fellow Scottish Pagans, but the lads and lasses soon converted to
> our local religion and language.  Humans lack their language skills and
> abilities in getting on in diversity.  The chimps are now rejecting the
> religion of the book in guttural Glaswegian.  It seems they prefer apples
> to promises from the sacred same page.  Bless their little cotton socks,
> they have asked me to commission something really arty from Tony they can
> eat, while they paint the scenarios I relate.  The vicar pops by to play
> ball games with them, as he did in recognising me as a hopeless case for
> indoctrination other than as an opening batsman.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 3:45:11 AM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Wikipedia.
>>
>> On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 3:40:25 AM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> I was waiting for the cunning Tony.  Obi-wan Kenobi is a management
>>> trick, like Poga-Oke (more or less 'fool-proofing).  I understand it
>>> materialises the St Michael.
>>>
>>> You are right.  Chimps do some basic season worship and scrub-jays hold
>>> funerals.  Religion origins long before the book.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:00:19 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Neil pulled an "Obi-wan Kenobi"…You don't need to define big Religions.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think any religion started as some bit to control the masses
>>>> since at the time the "masses" were very small. Thats a re-write of history
>>>> based on current perception of Opiate for the masses saturation.
>>>>
>>>>
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