Creation is not a work of hand but will , if something manifests and
evolves it is the work of will, not necessarily a will like ours and not by
a conscious being like us but by the Being which scientists are
conjecturing as something before the big bang , the cause of it. To me that
Something is God as that is the origin of the universe.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:47 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Big bang is not necessarily a creation event RP.  God from logic?  I
> prefer the ghost buster business plan.  I feel some presence is all.
>
>
> On Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 4:06:12 PM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> The conclusion that it exists is a product of logic, Life had to come out
>> of something and what better than the One. It is logical to believe that
>> all come out of One and not the many.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:17 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> First you said it was hiding behind the many, now you are saying it is
>>> above all. May I ask what it is that makes you so sure it exists, if the
>>> mapping is so complicated? How do we know we are not falling for a ghost
>>> buster business model?
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Samstag, 21. Februar 2015 schrieb RP Singh <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> The One is not present in the past , present and the future , rather it
>>>> is time , past , present and future which is preent in the One. The One is
>>>> above time as it is above all.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 7:38 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why should that One have the need to hide behind the many, when ever
>>>>> present in past, present and future? I would understand if it wants to 
>>>>> hide
>>>>> its shadows there behind the Big Bang, but then we should help the One to
>>>>> find its way out there! Time is now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Samstag, 21. Februar 2015 schrieb RP Singh <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The entire universe emanated from something following the big bang ,
>>>>>> but it cannot be said to be that something rather it is the something 
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> is behind the universe. So the One behind the many. Now all the 
>>>>>> individuals
>>>>>> have come from that something but cannot be said to be that something.
>>>>>> Again as all come from that something they are ever present in that, and
>>>>>> all past , present and future is just history abiding in that something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 6:59 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The One but the many, the many but the One - does not sound
>>>>>>> convincing in my ears. Allan, what do you say?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 21. Februar 2015 schrieb RP Singh <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gabby , the logic is that One is behind the many , but not the many.
>>>>>>>> The individual is just a fragment or rather an emanation of the One , 
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> not the One. It is the One which is the repository of all knowledge 
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> the infinite beings , the limitless creation, is unmanifest and become
>>>>>>>> manifest when their time comes. Theoretically as all that has been or 
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be is there in the unmanifest any thing in the past or anything in the
>>>>>>>> future can be known by touching that source. The past, present or the
>>>>>>>> future is all history as it always exists in the One.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:03 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey, your spell checker is doing a good job, Allan! :) Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The compass needle is in balance. Back in balance. As this seems
>>>>>>>>> to be your orientational pattern: "bring back information from the 
>>>>>>>>> totality
>>>>>>>>> of all knowledge". God being the representative of the "all 
>>>>>>>>> knowledge" and
>>>>>>>>> therefore greater than the individual knowledge. Did I get that right 
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> far? What leaves me wondering is, how does that understanding match 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the One&theMany understanding, which would not really draw the line 
>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>> the individual and the All, but see the different perspectives as the 
>>>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>>> for you seeing God as being greater. Or let me ask differently, how 
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> would you say is the soul the individual representative of the 
>>>>>>>>> totality of
>>>>>>>>> all knowledge? And in how much is the soul equipped with its own 
>>>>>>>>> compass
>>>>>>>>> needle from there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 21. Februar 2015 schrieb :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Was thinking about the old testament. Whati don't  like about it
>>>>>>>>>> is the inaccurate descriptions. Or outright lies but what van you 
>>>>>>>>>> expect
>>>>>>>>>> from a group of people trying to put themselves above the rest of 
>>>>>>>>>> humanity.
>>>>>>>>>> I can relate to some of what is recorded because similar things have
>>>>>>>>>> occurred to me,  which leaves me wondering what really went on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The story of creation is fasinating especially if you pitch thr
>>>>>>>>>> time scale and look it as stages..  In its own right it ts a 
>>>>>>>>>> simplified
>>>>>>>>>> version of the big bsng theory told to a group of herders/hunter 
>>>>>>>>>> gathers
>>>>>>>>>> explaining their origin.. Similar in aspects to the stories of how 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> navajo emerhed on this earth. Both are amazingly accurate.  
>>>>>>>>>> Personally in
>>>>>>>>>> my views I tend to be a transendentlist believing that one can 
>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>> cross the time/space barrier to bring back information from the 
>>>>>>>>>> totality of
>>>>>>>>>> all knowledge (which is ever expanding and not stagnant)  because of 
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> understanding of a being greater than myself which I commonly refer 
>>>>>>>>>> to as
>>>>>>>>>> God. This being helps me retrieve new information in a format you can
>>>>>>>>>> understand. To me there is a totality of knowledge all contained 
>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>> being I refer to as God.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
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