Postmodernism is supposedly a set of critical, strategic and rhetorical 
practices employing concepts such as difference, repetition, the trace, the 
simulacrum, and hyperreality to destabilize other concepts such as* 
presence*, identity, historical progress, epistemic certainty, and the 
univocity of meaning.

Tony could be seen as replaying the liar's paradox here.  To admit to 
hypocrisy may be to admit the truth.  For some postmodern writers, one has 
to go further than any set of analytic rules and recognise madness at work 
and restriction of dialogue to safe metaphors like Freud's Oedipal family, 
when the world of real desire is very different (quite a few writers were 
gay).

Skepticism, over many centuries, has taught a kind of suspension of 
judgement to a point when one works with many different arguments.  Humour 
can often be the only thing left after rigorous doubting, a kind of 
self-depreciation in the face of conflicting evidence and themes.  Those of 
us who 'know nothing' still know how to jibe "and even this is to know more 
than them, those who claim to know everything".  This doubting process, in 
science, comes to at least a temporary end in crucial experiments that 
anyone, in principle, can demonstrate.  This is rarely the case in ordinary 
living.

Descartes had it that we could undergo these difficult skeptical processes 
with faith in a warm, benevolent god.  It would be good to feel such a 
presence, but I don't.  He had the instruments of torture to contend with 
for that matter.  There is a presence of thinking on god without ancient 
fable, much as there are ways of thinking on economics without the 
dominating manners of neo-classical fantasy.  The admission of perplexity 
is something of a start, but has something of the vulnerability of sensory 
deprivation.

I am interested in the still mystical point of argument resolution after 
doubt that is not merely conviction, superiority.or promises so vague they 
are empty.

On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 9:12:31 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>
> Of course Allan! My narcissism is baptized in hypocrisy.
>
> I espouse to walk in the light and yet there are plenty of "Neighbors" I 
> don't treat better than myself.  I claim spiritual superiority and yet find 
> myself in constant need of attitude adjustment.  I want world peace but 
> have done little to push that round peg into all of the square holes I have 
> encountered.  Maybe only 1 out of three times do I turn the other cheek. 
>  And, I am definitely superior to most of the people I meet in this life.   
> My spirit is ill equipped to take on a higher plane of existence.
>
>

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