I hope, Neil, that you don't think that I am a narcissist.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you RP - I feel a link to what you say, though don't feel it
> necessary to define god.
>
> Tony raised narcissism, which we might connect to destiny.
>
> One form of  Narcissism is a little understood personality disorder which
> is increasingly showing up in our leaders across political, business,
> sporting, psychological and spiritual institutions. Indeed narcissism and
> narcissistic is increasingly being used to describe the mass cultural shift
> to a “self” obsessed culture where there is rampant consumerism, the
> pursuit of power, excesses, and the abuse of others in the pursuit of these
> ends. We all need a healthy dose of narcissism, as else we would not back
> ourselves in life, nor have a healthy sense of self. There are healthy
> forms of narcissism.  Pointing to and ridiculing one's own might well be
> healthy.
>
> The dangers of narcissism are discussed here -
> http://www.energeticsinstitute.com.au/page/narcissistic_group_dynamics.html
>
> One problem in recognising religious diversity is the idea that all people
> are honest about religious motivation and profession.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:07:16 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> Neil, why think of God in the usual way, think of him as something before
>> the big bang from which the universe emerged. Think of him as the mind
>> which contained the unmanifest which became manifest as the universe. We
>> know that there is predetermination but why think that he has
>> predetermined, think that it all naturally happens and evolution is a
>> natural predetermined process. Why should God be aware like us, as the
>> source of all he need not be bound by the limits of consciousness and can
>> very well be unconscious. Have faith in such a God and your destiny.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Postmodernism is supposedly a set of critical, strategic and rhetorical
>>> practices employing concepts such as difference, repetition, the trace, the
>>> simulacrum, and hyperreality to destabilize other concepts such as*
>>> presence*, identity, historical progress, epistemic certainty, and the
>>> univocity of meaning.
>>>
>>> Tony could be seen as replaying the liar's paradox here.  To admit to
>>> hypocrisy may be to admit the truth.  For some postmodern writers, one has
>>> to go further than any set of analytic rules and recognise madness at work
>>> and restriction of dialogue to safe metaphors like Freud's Oedipal family,
>>> when the world of real desire is very different (quite a few writers were
>>> gay).
>>>
>>> Skepticism, over many centuries, has taught a kind of suspension of
>>> judgement to a point when one works with many different arguments.  Humour
>>> can often be the only thing left after rigorous doubting, a kind of
>>> self-depreciation in the face of conflicting evidence and themes.  Those of
>>> us who 'know nothing' still know how to jibe "and even this is to know more
>>> than them, those who claim to know everything".  This doubting process, in
>>> science, comes to at least a temporary end in crucial experiments that
>>> anyone, in principle, can demonstrate.  This is rarely the case in ordinary
>>> living.
>>>
>>> Descartes had it that we could undergo these difficult skeptical
>>> processes with faith in a warm, benevolent god.  It would be good to feel
>>> such a presence, but I don't.  He had the instruments of torture to contend
>>> with for that matter.  There is a presence of thinking on god without
>>> ancient fable, much as there are ways of thinking on economics without the
>>> dominating manners of neo-classical fantasy.  The admission of perplexity
>>> is something of a start, but has something of the vulnerability of sensory
>>> deprivation.
>>>
>>> I am interested in the still mystical point of argument resolution after
>>> doubt that is not merely conviction, superiority.or promises so vague they
>>> are empty.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 9:12:31 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Of course Allan! My narcissism is baptized in hypocrisy.
>>>>
>>>> I espouse to walk in the light and yet there are plenty of "Neighbors"
>>>> I don't treat better than myself.  I claim spiritual superiority and yet
>>>> find myself in constant need of attitude adjustment.  I want world peace
>>>> but have done little to push that round peg into all of the square holes I
>>>> have encountered.  Maybe only 1 out of three times do I turn the other
>>>> cheek.  And, I am definitely superior to most of the people I meet in this
>>>> life.   My spirit is ill equipped to take on a higher plane of existence.
>>>>
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