...whereas all your teaching us seems to be centred around the idea how even Allan's most zombie-like statements should be embraced to reach enlightenment... Am 27.02.2015 10:31 schrieb "archytas" <[email protected]>:
> Certainly not RP. Only the bit about feeling linked to what you say on > god was at all relevant to you. Tony raised the narc point and we do > suggest some component of this may be necessary in creative living. That > pathological individuals are attracted to self-development and religion and > can actually be very dangerous was the point. > > On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 7:50:51 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >> >> I hope, Neil, that you don't think that I am a narcissist. >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:57 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you RP - I feel a link to what you say, though don't feel it >>> necessary to define god. >>> >>> Tony raised narcissism, which we might connect to destiny. >>> >>> One form of Narcissism is a little understood personality disorder >>> which is increasingly showing up in our leaders across political, business, >>> sporting, psychological and spiritual institutions. Indeed narcissism and >>> narcissistic is increasingly being used to describe the mass cultural shift >>> to a “self” obsessed culture where there is rampant consumerism, the >>> pursuit of power, excesses, and the abuse of others in the pursuit of these >>> ends. We all need a healthy dose of narcissism, as else we would not back >>> ourselves in life, nor have a healthy sense of self. There are healthy >>> forms of narcissism. Pointing to and ridiculing one's own might well be >>> healthy. >>> >>> The dangers of narcissism are discussed here - http://www. >>> energeticsinstitute.com.au/page/narcissistic_group_dynamics.html >>> >>> One problem in recognising religious diversity is the idea that all >>> people are honest about religious motivation and profession. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:07:16 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote: >>>> >>>> Neil, why think of God in the usual way, think of him as something >>>> before the big bang from which the universe emerged. Think of him as the >>>> mind which contained the unmanifest which became manifest as the universe. >>>> We know that there is predetermination but why think that he has >>>> predetermined, think that it all naturally happens and evolution is a >>>> natural predetermined process. Why should God be aware like us, as the >>>> source of all he need not be bound by the limits of consciousness and can >>>> very well be unconscious. Have faith in such a God and your destiny. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Postmodernism is supposedly a set of critical, strategic and >>>>> rhetorical practices employing concepts such as difference, repetition, >>>>> the >>>>> trace, the simulacrum, and hyperreality to destabilize other concepts such >>>>> as* presence*, identity, historical progress, epistemic certainty, >>>>> and the univocity of meaning. >>>>> >>>>> Tony could be seen as replaying the liar's paradox here. To admit to >>>>> hypocrisy may be to admit the truth. For some postmodern writers, one has >>>>> to go further than any set of analytic rules and recognise madness at work >>>>> and restriction of dialogue to safe metaphors like Freud's Oedipal family, >>>>> when the world of real desire is very different (quite a few writers were >>>>> gay). >>>>> >>>>> Skepticism, over many centuries, has taught a kind of suspension of >>>>> judgement to a point when one works with many different arguments. Humour >>>>> can often be the only thing left after rigorous doubting, a kind of >>>>> self-depreciation in the face of conflicting evidence and themes. Those >>>>> of >>>>> us who 'know nothing' still know how to jibe "and even this is to know >>>>> more >>>>> than them, those who claim to know everything". This doubting process, in >>>>> science, comes to at least a temporary end in crucial experiments that >>>>> anyone, in principle, can demonstrate. This is rarely the case in >>>>> ordinary >>>>> living. >>>>> >>>>> Descartes had it that we could undergo these difficult skeptical >>>>> processes with faith in a warm, benevolent god. It would be good to feel >>>>> such a presence, but I don't. He had the instruments of torture to >>>>> contend >>>>> with for that matter. There is a presence of thinking on god without >>>>> ancient fable, much as there are ways of thinking on economics without the >>>>> dominating manners of neo-classical fantasy. The admission of perplexity >>>>> is something of a start, but has something of the vulnerability of sensory >>>>> deprivation. >>>>> >>>>> I am interested in the still mystical point of argument resolution >>>>> after doubt that is not merely conviction, superiority.or promises so >>>>> vague >>>>> they are empty. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 9:12:31 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course Allan! My narcissism is baptized in hypocrisy. >>>>>> >>>>>> I espouse to walk in the light and yet there are plenty of >>>>>> "Neighbors" I don't treat better than myself. I claim spiritual >>>>>> superiority and yet find myself in constant need of attitude adjustment. >>>>>> I >>>>>> want world peace but have done little to push that round peg into all of >>>>>> the square holes I have encountered. Maybe only 1 out of three times do >>>>>> I >>>>>> turn the other cheek. And, I am definitely superior to most of the >>>>>> people >>>>>> I meet in this life. 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