Udwin is a woman. On Mar 5, 2015 4:44 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> That documentary has been banned and I don't read banned stuff because it > is mostly prejudiced and sensational. The maker is simply creating a storm > to make money. When that incident happened everyone was shocked, and by > raising that subject again by talking to a perpetrator of the crime what > did the producer want? If he was really concerned he should have talked to > people on the road and not a savage who had no concern for others but only > blaming the victim. Everyone needs protection, I as well. It is society > through the government that provides protection against criminals and > scoundrels. There are other type of savages who loot all your money and put > you on the road, there are savages in uniform who implicate you in criminal > cases, everyone needs protection and you are not unique in that. You can > make India a better place to live in, just why don't you try to do that? > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:19 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Don't use animals and rapists synonymously. What is your point when you >> say women in other places are vulnerable? Its quite obvious.. We all live >> in this world and are aware of what happens in other places too.. The point >> of reference is the documentary and Delhi. Maybe extending it to other >> parts of India. Nobody ever said only Indian men rape. I don't know who you >> are defending 'india' against... When you say 'you are not unique 'in >> demanding protection.. Are you talking to me(when did i demand >> protection;when i said delhi is unsafe??) , or do you mean all womankind >> when you say 'you are not unique in demanding protection'? As far as i >> gather Udwin is saying through the documentary that most men in india are >> not raised to respect women as equals and that's a contributing factor in >> increased rapes, hardly about controlling some random 'savages' out to get >> women and children. Maybe you should actually watch the documentary. Might >> help bring some perspective. >> On Mar 5, 2015 4:03 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Such instances happen everywhere in the world. There are streets in New >>> York where you cannot move about. Girls are, and yes even children are >>> forcefully put into prostitution and are drugged and made to do things >>> which go against civilization. Are they being done by Indians only? >>> Everyone needs protection from the animals and savages among us, and you >>> are not unique in that. Western countries might be better in some sense, >>> but we are in others. If you are talking about Delhi, you are doing so as >>> if it was crawling with monsters, but there are monsters everywhere. In >>> developed countries they have better systems of control, and as we progress >>> we will learn to control the animals here as well. >>> I have just read Archytas and he has given a good explanation. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:14 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Leave Delhi.. Remember the UP village case where two teenage sisters >>>> were raped and hanged from a tree? Already forgotten by most people. >>>> On Mar 5, 2015 3:12 PM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why should i need protection if i wear western attire..?and by that >>>>> logic wearing 'indian attire' doesnt call for 'protection'..if you wear it >>>>> ? Comparing India with Taliban aint a very great idea. We are moving >>>>> forward(in time) because thats what people do/countries do.. Plus who is >>>>> criticizing 'india' dude...?? I dont get the point of getting masses and >>>>> democracy. It's a fact that if youre a woman in Delhi youre quite unsafe. >>>>> One cant even call any cab or board any bus.. The problems of course go >>>>> much further than anything that is written here. Arguing about the >>>>> 'greatness' of india's heritage, democracy , culture doesnt do shit.... >>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 2:35 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you are wearing western attire and moving about the streets of >>>>>> Delhi who protects you, it is the people of India. India is a democracy >>>>>> and >>>>>> the government can function only if they are chosen by the people. >>>>>> Whatever >>>>>> politicians might be they know that they are answerable to the people and >>>>>> are ruling with peoples' mandate. Day by day we are moving forward, are >>>>>> we >>>>>> doing so by subjugating the masses? Our former Prime Minister Indira >>>>>> Gandhi >>>>>> tried to play the despot and lost the next election, she learned the >>>>>> lesson >>>>>> and corrected herself. Polly Taliban does not exist here , some people >>>>>> are >>>>>> trying to do that in the name of culture and are unsuccessful. Do the >>>>>> majority in India want fundamentalism, surely not! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:12 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry.. I don't mean the word tolerant.. what are 'they' supposed to >>>>>>> be 'tolerant' of anyways.. That females exist and move about by will?? >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 12:52 PM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hate to say this RP.. But majority of people are NOT tolerant... >>>>>>>> An hour into the streets of most areas of Delhi or even most parts of >>>>>>>> north >>>>>>>> india would make it clear... Maybe you stay in better parts... >>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 11:41 AM, "'facilitator' via "Minds Eye < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's encouraging RP. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 12:30:56 AM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is not the majority view, but that of deranged, uneducated and >>>>>>>>>> fundamentalists. Such people are always doing something evil in the >>>>>>>>>> name of >>>>>>>>>> culture, what do such people know of culture. We have a rich >>>>>>>>>> heritage of >>>>>>>>>> giving respect to women if we look in not so ancient India, when >>>>>>>>>> muslim >>>>>>>>>> raiders came from the west and stole women a little purdah system >>>>>>>>>> developed as a defence, and in the course of time evils in society >>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>> developed, but by the good works done by social reformers from >>>>>>>>>> amongst us >>>>>>>>>> much of our evil treatment of our women was abolished. It is in the >>>>>>>>>> nature >>>>>>>>>> of humans to rationalize their venomous intentions by putting the >>>>>>>>>> blame on >>>>>>>>>> the victim. The majority of our people are not like that, they are >>>>>>>>>> tolerant >>>>>>>>>> and free and that is the reason that we are progressing greatly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:58 AM, archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> China? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 7:13:51 PM UTC, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Article: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Blaming women for rape is what hundreds of millions of men >>>>>>>>>>>> here are taught to believe. >>>>>>>>>>>> And the code for women in this country is simple: Dress >>>>>>>>>>>> modestly, don't go out at night, don't go to bars and clubs, don't >>>>>>>>>>>> go out >>>>>>>>>>>> alone. If you break the code, you will be blamed for the >>>>>>>>>>>> consequences. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When one of the four men sentenced to death for the >>>>>>>>>>>> high-profile gang rape of the woman in 2012 was quoted in a new >>>>>>>>>>>> documentary >>>>>>>>>>>> as saying "a girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy," he >>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>> repeating something community and religious leaders in this nation >>>>>>>>>>>> of 1.2 >>>>>>>>>>>> billion routinely say. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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