http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/i-wish-judiciary-govt-did-more-than-just-ban-a-film/
On Mar 5, 2015 4:44 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:

> That documentary has been banned and I don't read banned stuff because it
> is mostly prejudiced and sensational. The maker is simply creating a storm
> to make money. When that incident happened everyone was shocked, and by
> raising that subject again by talking to a perpetrator of the crime what
> did the producer want? If he was really concerned he should have talked to
> people on the road and not a savage who had no concern for others but only
> blaming the victim. Everyone needs protection, I as well. It is society
> through the government that provides protection against criminals and
> scoundrels. There are other type of savages who loot all your money and put
> you on the road, there are savages in uniform who implicate you in criminal
> cases, everyone needs protection and you are not unique in that. You can
> make India a better place to live in, just why don't you try to do that?
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:19 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Don't use animals and rapists synonymously. What is your point when you
>> say women in other places are vulnerable? Its quite obvious.. We all live
>> in this world and are aware of what happens in other places too.. The point
>> of reference is the documentary and Delhi. Maybe extending it to other
>> parts of India. Nobody ever said only Indian men rape. I don't know who you
>> are defending 'india' against... When you say 'you are not unique 'in
>> demanding protection.. Are you talking to me(when did i demand
>> protection;when i said delhi is unsafe??) , or do you mean all womankind
>> when you say 'you are  not unique in demanding protection'? As far as i
>> gather Udwin is saying through the  documentary that most men in india are
>> not raised to respect women as equals and that's a contributing factor in
>> increased rapes, hardly about controlling some random 'savages' out to get
>> women and children. Maybe you should actually watch the documentary. Might
>> help bring some perspective.
>> On Mar 5, 2015 4:03 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Such instances happen everywhere in the world. There are streets in New
>>> York where you cannot move about. Girls are, and yes even children are
>>> forcefully put into prostitution and are drugged and made to do things
>>> which go against civilization. Are they being done by Indians only?
>>> Everyone needs protection from the animals and savages among us, and you
>>> are not unique in that. Western countries might be better in some sense,
>>> but we are in others. If you are talking about Delhi, you are doing so as
>>> if it was crawling with monsters, but there are monsters everywhere. In
>>> developed countries they have better systems of control, and as we progress
>>> we will learn to control the animals here as well.
>>> I have just read Archytas and he has given a good  explanation.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:14 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leave Delhi.. Remember the UP village case where two teenage sisters
>>>> were raped and hanged from a tree? Already forgotten by most people.
>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 3:12 PM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why should i need protection if i wear western attire..?and by that
>>>>> logic wearing 'indian attire' doesnt call for 'protection'..if you wear it
>>>>> ? Comparing India with Taliban aint a very great idea. We are moving
>>>>> forward(in time) because thats what people do/countries do.. Plus who is
>>>>> criticizing 'india' dude...?? I dont get the point of getting masses and
>>>>> democracy. It's a fact that if youre a woman in Delhi youre quite unsafe.
>>>>> One cant even call any cab or board any bus.. The problems of course go
>>>>> much further than anything that is written here. Arguing about the
>>>>> 'greatness' of india's heritage, democracy , culture doesnt do shit....
>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 2:35 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are wearing western attire and moving about the streets of
>>>>>> Delhi who protects you, it is the people of India. India is a democracy 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the government can function only if they are chosen by the people. 
>>>>>> Whatever
>>>>>> politicians might be they know that they are answerable to the people and
>>>>>> are ruling with peoples' mandate. Day by day we are moving forward, are 
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> doing so by subjugating the masses? Our former Prime Minister Indira 
>>>>>> Gandhi
>>>>>> tried to play the despot and lost the next election, she learned the 
>>>>>> lesson
>>>>>> and corrected herself. Polly Taliban does not exist here , some people 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> trying to do that in the name of culture and are unsuccessful. Do the
>>>>>> majority in India want fundamentalism, surely not!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:12 PM, polly skid <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry.. I don't mean the word tolerant.. what are 'they' supposed to
>>>>>>> be 'tolerant' of anyways.. That females exist and move about by will?? 
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 12:52 PM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hate to say this RP.. But majority of people are NOT tolerant...
>>>>>>>> An hour into the streets of most areas of Delhi or even most parts of 
>>>>>>>> north
>>>>>>>> india would make it clear... Maybe you stay in better parts...
>>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 11:41 AM, "'facilitator' via "Minds Eye <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's encouraging RP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 12:30:56 AM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is not the majority view, but that of deranged, uneducated and
>>>>>>>>>> fundamentalists. Such people are always doing something evil in the 
>>>>>>>>>> name of
>>>>>>>>>> culture, what do such people know of culture. We have a rich 
>>>>>>>>>> heritage of
>>>>>>>>>>  giving respect to women if we look in not so ancient India, when 
>>>>>>>>>> muslim
>>>>>>>>>> raiders came from the west and stole women  a little purdah system
>>>>>>>>>> developed as a defence, and in the course of time evils in society 
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> developed, but by the good works done by social reformers from 
>>>>>>>>>> amongst us
>>>>>>>>>> much of our evil treatment of our women was abolished. It is in the 
>>>>>>>>>> nature
>>>>>>>>>> of humans to rationalize their venomous intentions by putting the 
>>>>>>>>>> blame on
>>>>>>>>>> the victim. The majority of our people are not like that, they are 
>>>>>>>>>> tolerant
>>>>>>>>>> and free and that is the reason that we are progressing greatly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:58 AM, archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> China?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 7:13:51 PM UTC, facilitator wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Article:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Blaming women for rape is what hundreds of millions of men
>>>>>>>>>>>> here are taught to believe.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And the code for women in this country is simple: Dress
>>>>>>>>>>>> modestly, don't go out at night, don't go to bars and clubs, don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>> go out
>>>>>>>>>>>> alone. If you break the code, you will be blamed for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> consequences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When one of the four men sentenced to death for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> high-profile gang rape of the woman in 2012 was quoted in a new 
>>>>>>>>>>>> documentary
>>>>>>>>>>>> as saying "a girl is far more responsible for rape than a boy," he 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> repeating something community and religious leaders in this nation 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of 1.2
>>>>>>>>>>>> billion routinely say.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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