Maybe they are too busy fighting among themselves and sleeping too. On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:33:50 AM UTC-5, facilitator wrote: > > What the hell does the US having a woman president have to do with rape? > We haven't had an oriental president either. Hell, we haven't even had a > black president yet. > > On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 10:03:56 AM UTC-5, RP Singh wrote: >> >> There has been rampant dowry harassment of many young brides by the >> in-laws, but the greatest harassment has mostly been done by the >> mother-in-law. Women are actually the women's greatest enemies. America has >> 50% women population and in their long history they are yet to have a woman >> president. Are women actually sleeping or maybe somewhere they think that >> men would make better leaders. >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A very sad case indeed, Pol. There is much there to invoke outrage. And >>> RP's crack about women being the worst enemy for women has the tone of >>> these rapists flinging insults about the victim. But I cannot say I agree >>> that the film looks to be someone preying on the victim to get their own 5 >>> minutes of fame. Looks as if the film makers took a tough stand to try to >>> bring attention to the problem. And the problem looks to be, at least in >>> part, that blaming the victim is so accepted in all parts of culture that >>> we don't even recognize it when we see it, or sometimes say it. I can feel >>> deep compassion for the mother when she says that she can't be hurt worse >>> by their words after her daughter died in her arms after their violent >>> actions. How do we bring attention to the atrocity of cultural acceptance >>> of not only this kind of violence but the gender inequity that perpetuates >>> it? >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-5, pol.science kid wrote: >>>> >>>> http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/i-wish- >>>> judiciary-govt-did-more-than-just-ban-a-film/ >>>> On Mar 5, 2015 4:44 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That documentary has been banned and I don't read banned stuff because >>>>> it is mostly prejudiced and sensational. The maker is simply creating a >>>>> storm to make money. When that incident happened everyone was shocked, >>>>> and >>>>> by raising that subject again by talking to a perpetrator of the crime >>>>> what >>>>> did the producer want? If he was really concerned he should have talked >>>>> to >>>>> people on the road and not a savage who had no concern for others but >>>>> only >>>>> blaming the victim. Everyone needs protection, I as well. It is society >>>>> through the government that provides protection against criminals and >>>>> scoundrels. There are other type of savages who loot all your money and >>>>> put >>>>> you on the road, there are savages in uniform who implicate you in >>>>> criminal >>>>> cases, everyone needs protection and you are not unique in that. You can >>>>> make India a better place to live in, just why don't you try to do that? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:19 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Don't use animals and rapists synonymously. What is your point when >>>>>> you say women in other places are vulnerable? Its quite obvious.. We all >>>>>> live in this world and are aware of what happens in other places too.. >>>>>> The >>>>>> point of reference is the documentary and Delhi. Maybe extending it to >>>>>> other parts of India. Nobody ever said only Indian men rape. I don't >>>>>> know >>>>>> who you are defending 'india' against... When you say 'you are not >>>>>> unique >>>>>> 'in demanding protection.. Are you talking to me(when did i demand >>>>>> protection;when i said delhi is unsafe??) , or do you mean all womankind >>>>>> when you say 'you are not unique in demanding protection'? As far as i >>>>>> gather Udwin is saying through the documentary that most men in india >>>>>> are >>>>>> not raised to respect women as equals and that's a contributing factor >>>>>> in >>>>>> increased rapes, hardly about controlling some random 'savages' out to >>>>>> get >>>>>> women and children. Maybe you should actually watch the documentary. >>>>>> Might >>>>>> help bring some perspective. >>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 4:03 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Such instances happen everywhere in the world. There are streets in >>>>>>> New York where you cannot move about. Girls are, and yes even children >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> forcefully put into prostitution and are drugged and made to do things >>>>>>> which go against civilization. Are they being done by Indians only? >>>>>>> Everyone needs protection from the animals and savages among us, and >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> are not unique in that. Western countries might be better in some >>>>>>> sense, >>>>>>> but we are in others. If you are talking about Delhi, you are doing so >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> if it was crawling with monsters, but there are monsters everywhere. In >>>>>>> developed countries they have better systems of control, and as we >>>>>>> progress >>>>>>> we will learn to control the animals here as well. >>>>>>> I have just read Archytas and he has given a good explanation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:14 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leave Delhi.. Remember the UP village case where two teenage >>>>>>>> sisters were raped and hanged from a tree? Already forgotten by most >>>>>>>> people. >>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 3:12 PM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why should i need protection if i wear western attire..?and by >>>>>>>>> that logic wearing 'indian attire' doesnt call for 'protection'..if >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> wear it ? Comparing India with Taliban aint a very great idea. We are >>>>>>>>> moving forward(in time) because thats what people do/countries do.. >>>>>>>>> Plus >>>>>>>>> who is criticizing 'india' dude...?? I dont get the point of getting >>>>>>>>> masses >>>>>>>>> and democracy. It's a fact that if youre a woman in Delhi youre quite >>>>>>>>> unsafe. One cant even call any cab or board any bus.. The problems of >>>>>>>>> course go much further than anything that is written here. Arguing >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> the 'greatness' of india's heritage, democracy , culture doesnt do >>>>>>>>> shit.... >>>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 2:35 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you are wearing western attire and moving about the streets of >>>>>>>>>> Delhi who protects you, it is the people of India. India is a >>>>>>>>>> democracy and >>>>>>>>>> the government can function only if they are chosen by the people. >>>>>>>>>> Whatever >>>>>>>>>> politicians might be they know that they are answerable to the >>>>>>>>>> people and >>>>>>>>>> are ruling with peoples' mandate. Day by day we are moving forward, >>>>>>>>>> are we >>>>>>>>>> doing so by subjugating the masses? Our former Prime Minister Indira >>>>>>>>>> Gandhi >>>>>>>>>> tried to play the despot and lost the next election, she learned the >>>>>>>>>> lesson >>>>>>>>>> and corrected herself. Polly Taliban does not exist here , some >>>>>>>>>> people are >>>>>>>>>> trying to do that in the name of culture and are unsuccessful. Do >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> majority in India want fundamentalism, surely not! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:12 PM, polly skid <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry.. I don't mean the word tolerant.. what are 'they' >>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be 'tolerant' of anyways.. That females exist and move >>>>>>>>>>> about by >>>>>>>>>>> will?? ... >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 12:52 PM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hate to say this RP.. But majority of people are NOT >>>>>>>>>>>> tolerant... An hour into the streets of most areas of Delhi or >>>>>>>>>>>> even most >>>>>>>>>>>> parts of north india would make it clear... Maybe you stay in >>>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>>> parts... >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2015 11:41 AM, "'facilitator' via "Minds Eye < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's encouraging RP. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 12:30:56 AM UTC-5, RP Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not the majority view, but that of deranged, uneducated >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fundamentalists. Such people are always doing something evil >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> name of culture, what do such people know of culture. We have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage of giving respect to women if we look in not so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancient India, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when muslim raiders came from the west and stole women a little >>>>>>>>>>>>>> purdah >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system developed as a defence, and in the course of time evils >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in society >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also developed, but by the good works done by social reformers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from amongst >>>>>>>>>>>>>> us much of our evil treatment of our women was abolished. It is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature of humans to rationalize their venomous intentions by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blame on the victim. The majority of our people are not like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerant and free and that is the reason that we are progressing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> greatly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:58 AM, archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 7:13:51 PM UTC, facilitator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Article: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Blaming women for rape is what hundreds of millions of men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here are taught to believe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the code for women in this country is simple: Dress >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modestly, don't go out at night, don't go to bars and clubs, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't go out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alone. If you break the code, you will be blamed for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequences. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When one of the four men sentenced to death for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> high-profile gang rape of the woman in 2012 was quoted in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new documentary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as saying "a girl is far more responsible for rape than a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boy," he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeating something community and religious leaders in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation of 1.2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billion routinely say. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >>
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