Also, I have to go with Gabby on this one. Calling her a big girl is gender insensitive and demeaning.
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:27:40 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: > > I am trying to find out why our big girl Gabby is so bothered be me?? Is > Gabby's soul felling a bit guilty over what..that is a real question.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > Do you have false teeth by any chance Gabby? If so, could you have a > second set made, then you could leave them in situ after biting his ass, > and save the rest of us from the thiedium? > > On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 2:05:11 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: > > Big girl - that's not my wording, not my style, not how I view myself. > It's true, I was trying to make a constructive suggestion to get us out of > your barking at us and twisting our words to draw the focus of attention to > your soul perspective. Can you think of another solution so we others do > not have to constantly feel attacked? > > Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : > > If you want the topic opened, open it Gabby. You keep telling me you are a > big girl.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: gabbydott <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > Soul is a place holder for "guilty conscious" in this context here, I > suppose. I suggest you open a thread with the header "soul" and you collect > all the different meanings you have identified us others associate with it. > We would also profit from it by being able to go there when in need of > translation options for your "soul" usage. And you could be sure it was > your very own translation that is being used by the others. What do you > think? > > Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : > > When people do wrong knowing they justify it because their soul knows it > is wrong and they should not be doing it. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 8:57 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > Sure Allan, but these criminals seek excuses to justify themselves to > others and themselves. As a matter of fact there is no excuse for any crime > and a criminal has to bear the consequences of his act. > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is no justification for rape in any form or of any gender. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 3:36 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > The women dressing sense developed in the west gradually and it was not > copying others but an indigenous matter and as it was a gradual process the > western society as a whole was able to accept it. But in India it was not > so, some educated girls started copying the west and Indian society as a > whole was not prepared for it, and that is the reason that some backward > sections of our society find it unacceptable, but still it has nothing to > do with rape, which is a criminal act and done by criminal people. The > reasons that such people give for it is just a justification for their > criminal deed and not the real reason. > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:21 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > The argument that there are rapes in India because girls are not raised up > as equals with comparison to boys is not correct. If today girls are > entering into the workforce is not as a result of girls asserting > themselves but because their families are giving them a chance to make a > career for themselves. The parents, brothers, and husbands are co-operating > with the girls, they are encouraging the girls to go out and become career > girls and this is not limited to just the urban population but also > applicable to villagers. Consider the position of women a few centuries > back in Europe and America, they were just housewives and were not > encouraged to become doctors and engineers. India was an occupied country > for a long time and the proceed of this land was taken overseas and the > people as a mass were poor and uneducated, and as such women did not have > chance to go out and work. There were a few jobs available and it was taken > by boys. > Today as India is progressing more and more women are going out to work > even those belonging to the villages. Rapes are not happening because girls > are not considered as equal to men , but because of a criminal mindset of > some people. Formerly even women of the west were wearing discrete clothes > and it has taken time for women sexuality to assert itself in the west. As > the west is the leader in this respect the issue of attire was never raised > as there was no one to compare with. Here as women are becoming modern, > including their families, comparisons are drawn with the west because it is > there to compare with. > It is the uneducated and backward people here in India who are making a > issue of dress in the name of culture and it is criminal mentality in some > people which is making them rape and terrorize girls. Today girls are > making friends with boys and it is accepted by their families, but India > still holds spiritual values and it is expected that the relationship of > the sexes remain pure, just as it was the case with the west. > I have not seen the documentary but from what I have heard it appears that > the cause of rapes in India is being said to be due to unequal upbringing > of girls and boys. But this is far from the truth, Indians are going > through the same phase of development that the west went through a century > ago. WE are progressing as a people and very fast, and if there is crime, > and I consider rape to be a crime, it is because of the criminal mentality > of some people. Criminals always justify their actions they never say that > they are doing wrong but lay the blame on others and as such the statements > of the rapists and their backward advocates should not be taken as the > truth. Rape occurs just like anywhere else because of cheap mentality of > some people and the justification given by some people is due to a > prejudiced mindset. Indians as a people are progressive and crime should be > taken to be what it is and not otherwise. > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:35 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Time published an article making the following points on India: > > 1. More rapes are being reported now: Along with the modernization of > society, more Indian women are being educated and are going out to work. > They are breaking out of the subservient mold that society had given to > them and are more independent. While this means they are more likely to be > sexually abused, it also means they are more likely — compared with women > of a previous generation — to report rapes and confront sexual predators. > In the three months after the Delhi gang rape, the number of rapes reported > in the city more than doubled to 359, from the 143 reported in > January-March of 2012. This doesn’t necessarily mean more rapes are > happening now, just that more women are emboldened to come out and report. > > 2. India actually has a high conviction rate for rape: According to the > Guardian, just 7% of reported rapes in the U.K. resulted in convictions > during 2011-12. In Sweden, the conviction rate is as low as 10%. France had > a conviction rate of 25% in 2006. Poor India, a developing nation with > countless challenges, managed an impressive 24.2% conviction rate in 2012. > That’s thanks to the efforts of a lot of good people — police, lawyers, > victims and their families — working heroically with limited resources. > > 3. The media report everything: According to Dave Prager, the American > author of Delirious Delhi, crimes that “wouldn’t garner even a sentence in > an American paper because so many bigger crimes would elbow it out of the > way” are obsessively reported in Indian news publications. Post the Delhi > gang rape, Indian media have faithfully recorded each and every rape case, > highlighted them for the world and continue to do so. > > 4. Most Indians, men and women, hate the reputation that rapists have > given their country: No country in the world can claim to have witnessed > protests against rape on the scale of India’s, where people turned out in > the tens of thousands to voice their shock and sadness. It was people power > that forced the government to change existing rape laws and drew the > world’s attention to the problem. What happens in other countries? This may > not be a typical example, but the rape of a teen girl by high school > football players in the Steubenville, Ohio had many in the town > sympathizing with the rapists and not the victim. > > And in Poodleland UK, government is refusing to release very old files on > child sex abuse (and murder) involving politicians. More than 500,000 > women and children were trafficked in the first year after wall fall. > > On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 6:04:51 PM UTC, archytas wrote: > > The point to me is these Indians don't seem to trust the law to do much. > And they don't look like vigilantes to me either. I'll be your Poodle > Gabby, as long as you mash my food. > > On Saturday, 7 March 2015 13:07:16 UTC, Gabby wrote: > > I'm with Molly on this one. Your comparison deflects from the issue. Brits > have become so wimpy these days - monarchic poodles of the great > Republicans. Triangulation is key here. Grass roots empowerment for > the front garden lawn, but not in the corn fields where they minimize the > harvest output! No Bottom-up grass without Top-down sunshine control! > > Am Samstag, 7. März 2015 schrieb archytas : > > Not my idea of one either Molly. Though better this kind of violence than > being shepherded into war quietly. > > On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:22:58 PM UTC, Molly wrote: > > Not the grass roots movement I had in mind. I'm with Allan on this one. > Murder in response to anything is not the answer. (Self defense is > different.) > > > On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:20:12 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote: > > Thousands of furious Indians swarmed t > > ... -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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