Allan, calling a woman a girl is well known to be gender insensitive. If you don't think so, suggest you brush up or this may not be the last time you are called out for it. If indeed we are all supportive for human rights, we can bring ourselves to be sensitive to what the other feels when bearing the brunt of our words. Here in the states, calling a man a boy can get you in a great deal of trouble depending on the color of your skin and the region that your feet are currently planted upon. Words do matter, and claiming what is said is said in jest or is insignificant is an age old way to discount the reality of inequity, and always shows itself to be exactly what it is to people with attitudes that truly support human rights. So many of our words come to us through social conditioning, we don't understand the origin or inequity. It is incumbent on each of us to try. Tolerance of biased or abusive attitudes creates cultures of inequity.
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:59:10 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: > > To me all " big girl " is saying is she is an adult and of female gender.. > nothing more.. unless may be grow up. No different some one telling me I > am a big boy.. > > But if i say the sun is shining Gabby is offended.. if she is offended i > will stop using it.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > Also, I have to go with Gabby on this one. Calling her a big girl is > gender insensitive and demeaning. > > On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 11:27:40 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: > > I am trying to find out why our big girl Gabby is so bothered be me?? Is > Gabby's soul felling a bit guilty over what..that is a real question.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > Do you have false teeth by any chance Gabby? If so, could you have a > second set made, then you could leave them in situ after biting his ass, > and save the rest of us from the thiedium? > > On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 2:05:11 PM UTC, Gabby wrote: > > Big girl - that's not my wording, not my style, not how I view myself. > It's true, I was trying to make a constructive suggestion to get us out of > your barking at us and twisting our words to draw the focus of attention to > your soul perspective. Can you think of another solution so we others do > not have to constantly feel attacked? > > Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : > > If you want the topic opened, open it Gabby. You keep telling me you are a > big girl.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: gabbydott <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > Soul is a place holder for "guilty conscious" in this context here, I > suppose. I suggest you open a thread with the header "soul" and you collect > all the different meanings you have identified us others associate with it. > We would also profit from it by being able to go there when in need of > translation options for your "soul" usage. And you could be sure it was > your very own translation that is being used by the others. What do you > think? > > Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb : > > When people do wrong knowing they justify it because their soul knows it > is wrong and they should not be doing it. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 8:57 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > Sure Allan, but these criminals seek excuses to justify themselves to > others and themselves. As a matter of fact there is no excuse for any crime > and a criminal has to bear the consequences of his act. > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is no justification for rape in any form or of any gender. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 3:36 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards. > > The women dressing sense developed in the west gradually and it was not > copying others but an indigenous matter and as it was a gradual process the > western society as a whole was able to accept it. But in India it was not > so, some educated girls started copying the west and Indian society as a > whole was not prepared for it, and that is the reason that some backward > sections of our society find it unacceptable, but still it has nothing to > do with rape, which is a criminal act and done by criminal people. The > reasons that such people give for it is just a justification for their > criminal deed and not the real reason. > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:21 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > The argument that there are rapes in India because girls are not raised up > as equals with comparison to boys is not correct. If today girls are > entering into the workforce is not as a result of girls asserting > themselves but because their families are giving them a chance to make a > career for themselves. The parents, brothers, and husbands are co-operating > with the girls, they are encouraging the girls to go out and become career > girls and this is not limited to just the urban population but also > applicable to villagers. Consider the position of women a few centuries > back in Europe and America, they were just housewives and were not > encouraged to become doctors and engineers. India was an occupied country > for a long time and the proceed of this land was taken overseas and the > people as a mass were poor and uneducated, and as such women did not have > chance to go out and work. There were a few jobs available and it was taken > by boys. > Today as India is progressing more and more women are going out to work > even those belonging to the villages. Rapes are not happening because girls > are not considered as equal to men , but because of a criminal mindset of > some people. Formerly even women of the west were wearing discrete clothes > and it has taken time for women sexuality to assert itself in the west. As > the west is the leader in this respect the issue of attire was never raised > as there was no one to compare with. Here as women are becoming modern, > including their families, comparisons are drawn with the west because it is > there to compare with. > It is the uneducated and backward people here in India who are making a > issue of dress in the name of culture and it is criminal mentality in some > people which is making them rape and terrorize girls. Today girls are > making friends with boys and it is accepted by their families, but India > still holds spiritual values and it is expected that the relationship of > the sexes remain pure, just as it was the case with the west. > I have not seen the documentary but from what I have heard it appears that > the cause of rapes in India is being said to be due to unequal upbringing > of girls and boys. But this is far from the truth, Indians are going > through the same phase of development that the west went through a century > ago. WE are progressing as a people and very fast, and if there is crime, > and I consider rape to be a crime, it is because of the criminal mentality > of some people. Criminals always justify their actions they never say that > they are doing wrong but lay the blame on others and as such the statements > of the rapists and their backward advocates should not be taken as the > truth. Rape occurs just like anywhere else because of cheap mentality of > some people and the justification given by some people is due to a > prejudiced mindset. Indians as a people are progressive and crime should be > taken to be what it is and not otherwise. > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:35 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Time published an article making the following points on India: > > 1. More rapes are being reported now: Along with the modernization of > society, more Indian women are being educated and are going out to work. > They are breaking out of the subservient mold that society had given to > them and are more independent. While this means they are more likely to be > sexually abused, it also means they are more likely — compared with women > of a previous generation — to report rapes and confront sexual predators. > In the three months after the Delhi gang rape, the number of rapes reported > in the city more than doubled to 359, from the 143 reported in > January-March of 2012. This doesn’t necessarily mean more rapes are > happening now, just that more women are emboldened to come out and report. > > 2. India actually has a high conviction rate for rape: According to the > Guardian, just 7% of reported rapes in the U.K. resulted in co > > ... -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
