I can't but agree Gabby - though we could extend into the difficulties of 
the teaching.  Remarkable how little the undergrads know.

On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 8:57:39 AM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>
> Same trend here in Germany, or at least here in Berlin. Helicopter parents 
> freak out what their 8-year-olds are being taught or, as you suggest, what 
> kind of sick logic and imagery children and their families are forced to 
> deal with. Sexual practices, homosexuality, contraception, sexual abuse. [ 
> I hear in America even the unedited version of the Grimm's fairy tales are 
> being banned for being too explicit.] I agree that the teachers are more 
> than often unfit to deal with these matters. I wish they could get more 
> support by providing them with good teaching material they could select 
> from and follow through, for example. Because the idea behind it is good: 
> teach children about their right to say no to non-consensual sex before 
> puberty and make them strong to make decisions based on their own sexual 
> orientation and not to satisfy old people's expectations.
> I have seen how much colonial-racist crap and perspective training my son 
> had to eat and what a long way we still have to go to raise awareness that 
> this is doing damage for white children and their future perspectives also.
>
> Am Montag, 9. März 2015 schrieb archytas :
>
> Meanwhile, this is what we will be teaching in England.
> Schools are to teach pupils as young as 11 about rape and consensual sex, 
> Education Secretary Nicky Morgan announced yesterday.
>
> Children will be encouraged to discuss what they have learnt about sex 
> from pornography, and if it is possible to agree to sex when drunk.
>
> The lessons, which also challenge children to talk about gay rape, are 
> being added to the education syllabus for secondary schools and could come 
> in as soon as the summer term.
>
> The formal guidance commissioned by the Government tells teachers that 
> courses should begin 'before young people are sexually active, otherwise it 
> is too late'.
>
> But parent groups last night raised concerns that the changes to sex 
> education would lead to the 'erosion of childhood' and could put children 
> under more pressure to have sex.
>
> The classes will be based on resources being developed by the PSHE 
> Association – a government-funded organisation created in 2006 to advise on 
> personal and social education.
>
> Teachers will be encouraged to discuss 'rape myths' such as the notion 
> that a woman consents to sex by 'teasing' a man or dressing provocatively. 
>
> They will also be told to inform children that most rapes are committed by 
> people known to the victim, while pupils will be encouraged to imagine 
> scenarios such as the morning after having sex while drunk.
>
> Suggested questions for teachers to ask include: 'What misconceptions 
> about consent would an alien get if their only evidence was from 
> pornography?'
>
> Pupils will also be told analyse statements such as: 'If a woman is raped 
> while drunk she is at least somewhat responsible'.
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 2:29:01 AM UTC, RP Singh wrote:
>
> To change a culture from outside is very difficult but it can be changed 
> if some members of that group strive to change their society. This also 
> depends upon the flexibility of the concerned culture , I find that to 
> change the muslim mindset would be a very difficult task. No matter how 
> hard you try a sizable section of the muslims wouldn't agree, and what is 
> more the persons who are making this humanitarian effort would meet with a 
> painful death. Such are the fundamentals of Islam that they cannot be 
> challenged, it would amount to sacrilege.
> As far as the Hindu culture is concerned it is very flexible and amenable 
> to change if influential members of the society take it upon themselves the 
> task of social chan
>
> ...

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