Stop yelling, Gabby. You have completely misinterpreted what I had to say 
and it wasn't aimed at anyone, not Allan, certainly.Who are you to claim 
what my statements target directly? Why not ask me? But you never fail to 
find a reason to go off on him so stop it. Neil can make jokes about your 
teeth and Allan can let it roll off, what it tells me about you is that 
instead of asking for clarification of a statement you lose your temper and 
usually at Allan, for your own reasons and no one else's. Don't you ever 
get tired of that? I do, Neil says he does. Can't imagine anyone looking 
forward to it.

This group has its ups and downs. It currently seems more down than up as 
every topic that gets interesting soon fizzles. The statement was a 
generalization. I can't be the only one that wonders about its survival.

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 5:08:42 PM UTC-4, Gabby wrote:
>
> Please Allan, do not let them threaten and subdue you with horror fables 
> and sugar shocks! This group will fail or not is targeting directly at 
> your base drivers. The times of collective guilt are over, individual 
> responsibility is what counts nowadays. It is called demagogy what is being 
> done here! Look it up in an old leadership manual! Molly is the owner of 
> this group, it is solely up to her to press the delete button! It has 
> nothing to do with you! Please wake up and get out of your rabbit hole!
>
> 2015-03-08 20:58 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]>:
>
> That is very true,
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Molly <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>
> Ultimately, whether a group "goes backwards" or forwards, succeeds or 
> fails, depends on the membership. The quality of the dialogue has improved 
> here lately with the return of a few members that were at one time 
> interested in the quality of the conversation. Even when that quality was 
> high, squabbles occurred and trolls came and went. It will be interesting 
> to see what happens to the group, whether it slides back to viscous 
> discourse or continues to improve. No behind the scenes covert 
> manipulations will decide the fate. This group will fail or not because of 
> what the members tolerate, respect, introduce, offer and create. No more no 
> less. You can stack the administrators, change the engaged members. The 
> tone and longevity of the dialogue is simply formulated by the daily words 
> posted. No single person's manipulations (or select few that allow) will 
> make or break it. Even if ME fails here, the members relate on more than 
> one platform, and if the desire is to continue the conversation, whatever 
> the tone, it will continue. Human resilience should never be underestimated.
>
> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 2:55:24 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> Not me Francis is the proper group vicar. His knowledge and understanding 
> is so far beyond mine.. it is embarrassing.  
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: We are going backwards.
>
> We have vicars not vacars my dear.  *You were the Information Manager, a 
> far more important role given the needed suppression of the project for 
> reasons of international security.  Does vicarious embarrassment need 
> batteries?  You not laughing will be tough to get to the top of the 
> newspile.  Though you are a giggle.  Allan is well aware of his real role. 
>  *
>
> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 6:14:06 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>
> What about your "making" Allan your project manager of the moral compass? 
> Ich musste mich so fremdschämen! (It made me squirm with vacarious 
> embarrassment!) Did I tell Allan how he was made the circus clown while he 
> was thinking he was the director? No, i did not laugh.
>
> Am Sonntag, 8. März 2015 schrieb archytas :
>
> I hardly expect you to whisper sweet nothings, even as Gabbsie Twirly.  
> You could be less Bulldog sometimes and just let the sleeping dog lie, 
> though the other side of this is to become the nodding donkey Allan 
> supposedly does not like.  Your high horse leaves a peculiar trail, given 
> rocking horse dung is so rare.  Nice people usually aren't, so I always 
> think you might be.  If you get my drift and understand I was genuinely 
> touched by you tagging me as the 'rabbit'.
>
> On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 4:16:48 PM UTC, Gabby wrote:
>
> Words can be seen as place holders if there is no meaning connected to 
> them. You insist your meaning is right, I insist my meaning is right, 
> doesn't lead us anywhere. That's why I made a suggestion you developed a 
> meaning repository of "soul"
>
> ...

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