That is only a partial truth. تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
-----Original Message----- From: RP Singh <[email protected]> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 8:41 AM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics We are free to do what we want to do under constraints, we can control our nature if we so strive, and change our nature as well, but the initiative comes from within us and it is in that we are bound. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 11:38 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > RP care for your friendship dearly.. > But you have not gone beyond your original thought.. never even expanding > on it.. you are stuck it a rut.. and the rut only has validity in your > mind. > One of the problems as I see it the rut is so deep you can not view or > see the validity of a different perspective. . > > Kind of a catch 22 situation. (",) > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: RP Singh <[email protected]> > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 1:45 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics > > Mysticism takes us to the divine presence from which the universe emanates > in a predetermined way. When we look at atoms this is quite evident but as > regard to us humans there is a facade of a conscious free will which makes > predetermination to be accepted very difficult. How can anyone agree that > he is going along a predetermined way when ostensibly he is doing > everything with a conscious free will, and with this comes attachment to > all actions produced by oneself with the accompanying responsibility and > egoism. > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:31 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I hear you loud and clear.. >> >> Agreed >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 7:47 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Einstein and the Mystics >> >> One might see patterns in the worst of religious education, economics and >> the overall system we have that barely teaches most people to be at all >> open to evidence. Retreating to the womb psicko-analysis is as >> rationalising as fundamentalists protecting ancient text as the word of god. >> >> On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 5:03:33 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>> >>> It would be much easier to accept all this without the poison of >>> corruption and ignorance. 90% or more academic papers, despite so-called >>> peer review, including medicine and hard science are rot, and of what's >>> left few advance anything significant. Text books are 99% copies of copies >>> or a dud original. Not long ago economics was a science, now one is >>> supposed to take the stance of an objective scientist more than 60-100 >>> years after we knew scientists are not objective. Look how slow our public >>> language has been to catch up. Molly talks (in All About Living) of >>> something I profoundly agree, a need to expose injustice. There is room >>> for the 'non-believer', the different - it goes on. I don't care for the >>> religious aspects, but this is because I frame them differently. The idea >>> that science has destroyed religion is childish, though I think it is clear >>> our societies have all been had by mystical rot, fable and sheer terror >>> (instruments of torture). >>> >>> The kind of things I would have liked to discuss go beyond exposing >>> 'truth' and into mechanisms of exposure, from how religious experience >>> works to how we still manage of keep injustice invisible in plain sight. I >>> could pull Molly's books apart, but you have to know here we try to do the >>> same with Einstein (whose main work is a critique and synthesis of Maxwell >>> and experimenters) and have done this with Darwin and two-dimensions paper >>> geometry. And that I would be happy for kids to be taught from her >>> material and do something similar trying to get over scientific method to >>> undergraduates. >>> >>> This group has never got the message that you can find argument to >>> support or against almost anything. Science has experimental evidence >>> difficult to replicate in other fields (though I can find arguments that >>> dispute this). Argument is actually very rare - nearly everything >>> pretending to be is rhetoric or disguised polemic. I don't do Molly's one >>> but see good in its aspiration. I have found, despite a rather chronic >>> positive generality that makes me uncomfortable, anticipation of much I >>> would want. >>> >>> In the end there are things about getting on with each other in some way >>> other than in positive manners so easily corrupted in a world that doesn't >>> read, do science and exists in varieties of personal comfort, extracted by >>> rationalisation. I don't think most people can see the truth and their >>> minds are not structured to do this. This might well be a problem for the >>> truth-seeker expecting that to expose truth is enough. Each to her own we >>> say in all 'tolerance', forgetting the sociopath and that such relativism >>> is both tolerant and all manner of excuses. >>> >>> On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 2:52:00 PM UTC, Molly wrote: >>> >>> A good, but lengthy interiew with Rupert Sheldrake: http://www. >>> thebestschools.org/features/rupert-sheldrake-interview/ >>> <http://www.thebestschools.org/features/rupert-sheldrake-interview/> >>> >>> Articulates some of what is being bandied about here: >>> >>> >>> 1. 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