Great way to study without having to go through the trouble of hanging out 
a shingle. And since all saviors have left the group (except of course the 
alters) we would be hard pressed for a shipping address. If there are 
limits here Gabby hasn't seen them, as her new application to the group 
with a different address for RP proves. A war that knows no bounds. Not 
many left to watch, let alone get off a shot now and then.

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 8:39:18 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> The pro bono bit Molly.  There are limits, even with our no soul left 
> behind policy.  Psychodrama seems to pin it all.  As in shower curtain, 
> knife and cut to black-and-white, all turned into a one-woman show at the 
> Bate's Motel.  Could we not get her doing her own therapy too?  I know she 
> only craves attention because she has a younger, prettier, smarter sister, 
> but most kids do grow through this stage.  Maybe we should start charging 
> and create a waiting room to do some Lacanian time structuring (she stays 
> out there, we do nothing and then send her a big bill for the non-therapy 
> that has taught her to understand how she wastes our time)?  Or we could 
> roll her up in a carpet and have it sent c/o 'Chrissy Jenkins, Some Swamp, 
> Flouride County, SEP' (someone else's problem).
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 11:46:41 AM UTC, Molly wrote:
>>
>> It all does seem to come down to managing the several members known as 
>> Gabby as they play out her psychodramas. What's up with that?
>>
>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 2:18:25 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> My bout of 'flu had me on my knees in similar manner Ash.- as you know 
>>> we Brits have to do things on the cheap these days.  ME hasn't changed much 
>>> and at one point only hung together through threads of Allan talking to 
>>> himself.  The rest of our world is made up by that German actress we hired 
>>> to play Estella Haversham, the girl brought up to raise and then bring the 
>>> Great Expectations of men crashing down.  She has gone native and has a 
>>> cloning machine in operation, as in 'The Fly'.  In this case, whatever 
>>> comes out has an over-sized spleen.  We discuss nothing at all  productive 
>>> and there are more former members exchanging emails with me than use the 
>>> group for fear of being savaged in the post catastrophe world of these 
>>> columns. Even Molly Brogan has gone feral and sank teeth into RP Singh. 
>>>  The poor chap hasn't been seen since.  He only indicated Moll had been 
>>> neglecting her family by spending time in religious speakeasy joints and 
>>> frittering her time away writing on the imagination - something we all knew 
>>> anyway but wouldn't say out of respect for the brick in her handbag.  Moll 
>>> and I agree on almost everything these days except god.  I don't do Deity 
>>> despite Gabby's claims I am one and it seems Molly's chap talks to her 
>>> about quantum phenomena, making me believe she is in touch with a charlatan 
>>> as I passed through the quantum rainbow some time ago, whilst waiting to 
>>> cross the Planck wall and feel the burn.  My main triumph concerns 
>>> successful treatment of Allan's zero complex by convincing him there are no 
>>> numbers in mathematics.
>>>
>>> You can tell the usual standards of ignorance reign.  This thread is 
>>> supposedly about war and no one seems to be aware of basic details and our 
>>> countries' roles in finding chaps armed with sharpened mangoes prepared to 
>>> be slaughtered to prove their manhood in death and ours in that distant 
>>> triumph in which we don't know whether we are flying a drone or Master 
>>> Chief in Halo legendary mode.  That the Saudis and other GCC members are 
>>> bombing Yemen is seen as an irrelevance as Gabby continues a bullying 
>>> monologue between the various 'alters' that prove she does not have 
>>> dissociative personality disorder.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 4:36:53 AM UTC, Ash wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Parenting, like teaching can be a  thankless task requiring 
>>>> incorrigible wit and a stomach for dark beers. I for one am glad to hear a 
>>>> good story even as a statue in disanimie (crap the Brits already made that 
>>>> word up). Lacking both I seem to have transintegrated on my path to 
>>>> enlightenment and landed back here. In flight from hell a falcon dive 
>>>> through a wall of fire meditation left me triple spinning with the thunder 
>>>> of a waterfall on my head to send me to my knees grasping the ground. It 
>>>> was almost downright 'spiritual'.
>>>>  On Mar 25, 2015 8:54 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Chris came as custodian of the group's beer cellars.  He was last seen 
>>>>> making a trip to a craft brewery on a German manufactured broomstick, 
>>>>> mistaking Wytch's Brew for witch's broom, an easy mistake for an American 
>>>>> drinker after 19 quarts of Old Peculiar.  Other ventures here include 
>>>>> putting wolves in charge of hen houses/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 12:39:12 AM UTC, Ash wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Dance like a butterfly sting like a bee' fair lady. Silence feels 
>>>>>> like cowardice to me Allan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Tony, glad to hear Andrew and Fran too! Who's this Chris fellow?
>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2015 6:10 PM, "Gabby Thiede" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch here! 
>>>>>>> You need to fight with me!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of war..
>>>>>>>> Are you for war or against war..  your lip flapping is anything but 
>>>>>>>> neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather cowardice. 
>>>>>>>> .  
>>>>>>>> Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no 
>>>>>>>> neutrality. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good 
>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are immoral. 
>>>>>>>> Judges in order to do  their job right have to remain neutral. Parents 
>>>>>>>> should as well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more bravery than 
>>>>>>>> taking sides. As an example, some countries and some people find 
>>>>>>>> homosexuality immoral. In those situations, it takes courage to take a 
>>>>>>>> neutral stand regarding homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and 
>>>>>>>> unconditional respect.Who is to say what is moral and what is not. And 
>>>>>>>> something regarded as morally correct at one time  can be regarded as 
>>>>>>>> immorally wrong at another time. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neutrality is afraid  of taking a position.  A cowards way out.. 
>>>>>>>>> how now to stand up for what is morally correct..  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of war 
>>>>>>>>> far out weight any of the few positive consequences.  
>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other means, 
>>>>>>>>> especially in the modern times that we live in.:
>>>>>>>>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by 
>>>>>>>>> universities and government and private projects with monetary and 
>>>>>>>>> merit 
>>>>>>>>> rewards. 
>>>>>>>>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via tourism 
>>>>>>>>> and exchange projects and the internet.
>>>>>>>>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy and 
>>>>>>>>> sanctions.
>>>>>>>>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing and 
>>>>>>>>> contraception.
>>>>>>>>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and that 
>>>>>>>>> the brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have a common 
>>>>>>>>> enemy 
>>>>>>>>> in that if nature is exploited further we are all threatened. If you 
>>>>>>>>> love 
>>>>>>>>> your enemies, then you will not have any. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars.
>>>>>>>>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and direct 
>>>>>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>>>>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, appreciation 
>>>>>>>>> of diversity, 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Examples are:
>>>>>>>>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact and 
>>>>>>>>> let them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago.
>>>>>>>>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of 
>>>>>>>>> the cantons and the refusal to join Euro.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative consequences 
>>>>>>>>>> to war, which seems to be a part of human nature. I like to believe 
>>>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>>>> there is always 2 sides to everything - positive and negative. War 
>>>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>>>> weapons and fighting with words have some common ground, like you 
>>>>>>>>>> suggest. 
>>>>>>>>>> Being an aggressor in a war and being a bully also share common 
>>>>>>>>>> ground. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if you 
>>>>>>>>>> are bullied.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid of 
>>>>>>>>>> your friends who are bullied.  
>>>>>>>>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of 
>>>>>>>>>> strangers who are bullied.
>>>>>>>>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others 
>>>>>>>>>> yourself.  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much 
>>>>>>>>>> more difficult to spot of course:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in 
>>>>>>>>>> times of peace.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against aggressors.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and 
>>>>>>>>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population.
>>>>>>>>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus is 
>>>>>>>>>> claimed to have said, then you will not have any. 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, 
>>>>>>>>>>> professor, playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on a 
>>>>>>>>>>> wide 
>>>>>>>>>>> range of issues including race, class, war, and history, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> touched the 
>>>>>>>>>>> lives of countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> human race" http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some of 
>>>>>>>>>>> us), in interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human race. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>
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