It all does seem to come down to managing the several members known as 
Gabby as they play out her psychodramas. What's up with that?

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 2:18:25 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> My bout of 'flu had me on my knees in similar manner Ash.- as you know we 
> Brits have to do things on the cheap these days.  ME hasn't changed much 
> and at one point only hung together through threads of Allan talking to 
> himself.  The rest of our world is made up by that German actress we hired 
> to play Estella Haversham, the girl brought up to raise and then bring the 
> Great Expectations of men crashing down.  She has gone native and has a 
> cloning machine in operation, as in 'The Fly'.  In this case, whatever 
> comes out has an over-sized spleen.  We discuss nothing at all  productive 
> and there are more former members exchanging emails with me than use the 
> group for fear of being savaged in the post catastrophe world of these 
> columns. Even Molly Brogan has gone feral and sank teeth into RP Singh. 
>  The poor chap hasn't been seen since.  He only indicated Moll had been 
> neglecting her family by spending time in religious speakeasy joints and 
> frittering her time away writing on the imagination - something we all knew 
> anyway but wouldn't say out of respect for the brick in her handbag.  Moll 
> and I agree on almost everything these days except god.  I don't do Deity 
> despite Gabby's claims I am one and it seems Molly's chap talks to her 
> about quantum phenomena, making me believe she is in touch with a charlatan 
> as I passed through the quantum rainbow some time ago, whilst waiting to 
> cross the Planck wall and feel the burn.  My main triumph concerns 
> successful treatment of Allan's zero complex by convincing him there are no 
> numbers in mathematics.
>
> You can tell the usual standards of ignorance reign.  This thread is 
> supposedly about war and no one seems to be aware of basic details and our 
> countries' roles in finding chaps armed with sharpened mangoes prepared to 
> be slaughtered to prove their manhood in death and ours in that distant 
> triumph in which we don't know whether we are flying a drone or Master 
> Chief in Halo legendary mode.  That the Saudis and other GCC members are 
> bombing Yemen is seen as an irrelevance as Gabby continues a bullying 
> monologue between the various 'alters' that prove she does not have 
> dissociative personality disorder.
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 4:36:53 AM UTC, Ash wrote:
>>
>> Parenting, like teaching can be a  thankless task requiring incorrigible 
>> wit and a stomach for dark beers. I for one am glad to hear a good story 
>> even as a statue in disanimie (crap the Brits already made that word up). 
>> Lacking both I seem to have transintegrated on my path to enlightenment and 
>> landed back here. In flight from hell a falcon dive through a wall of fire 
>> meditation left me triple spinning with the thunder of a waterfall on my 
>> head to send me to my knees grasping the ground. It was almost downright 
>> 'spiritual'.
>>  On Mar 25, 2015 8:54 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris came as custodian of the group's beer cellars.  He was last seen 
>>> making a trip to a craft brewery on a German manufactured broomstick, 
>>> mistaking Wytch's Brew for witch's broom, an easy mistake for an American 
>>> drinker after 19 quarts of Old Peculiar.  Other ventures here include 
>>> putting wolves in charge of hen houses/
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 12:39:12 AM UTC, Ash wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 'Dance like a butterfly sting like a bee' fair lady. Silence feels like 
>>>> cowardice to me Allan.
>>>>
>>>> Hey Tony, glad to hear Andrew and Fran too! Who's this Chris fellow?
>>>> On Mar 25, 2015 6:10 PM, "Gabby Thiede" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch here! 
>>>>> You need to fight with me!
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb :
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of war..
>>>>>> Are you for war or against war..  your lip flapping is anything but 
>>>>>> neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather cowardice. .  
>>>>>> Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no 
>>>>>> neutrality. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are immoral. 
>>>>>> Judges in order to do  their job right have to remain neutral. Parents 
>>>>>> should as well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more bravery than 
>>>>>> taking sides. As an example, some countries and some people find 
>>>>>> homosexuality immoral. In those situations, it takes courage to take a 
>>>>>> neutral stand regarding homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and 
>>>>>> unconditional respect.Who is to say what is moral and what is not. And 
>>>>>> something regarded as morally correct at one time  can be regarded as 
>>>>>> immorally wrong at another time. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neutrality is afraid  of taking a position.  A cowards way out.. how 
>>>>>>> now to stand up for what is morally correct..  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of war 
>>>>>>> far out weight any of the few positive consequences.  
>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other means, 
>>>>>>> especially in the modern times that we live in.:
>>>>>>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by 
>>>>>>> universities and government and private projects with monetary and 
>>>>>>> merit 
>>>>>>> rewards. 
>>>>>>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via tourism 
>>>>>>> and exchange projects and the internet.
>>>>>>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy and 
>>>>>>> sanctions.
>>>>>>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing and 
>>>>>>> contraception.
>>>>>>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and that 
>>>>>>> the brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have a common 
>>>>>>> enemy 
>>>>>>> in that if nature is exploited further we are all threatened. If you 
>>>>>>> love 
>>>>>>> your enemies, then you will not have any. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars.
>>>>>>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and direct 
>>>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, appreciation 
>>>>>>> of diversity, 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Examples are:
>>>>>>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact and 
>>>>>>> let them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago.
>>>>>>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of the 
>>>>>>> cantons and the refusal to join Euro.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly.
>>>>>>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative consequences to 
>>>>>>>> war, which seems to be a part of human nature. I like to believe that 
>>>>>>>> there 
>>>>>>>> is always 2 sides to everything - positive and negative. War with 
>>>>>>>> weapons 
>>>>>>>> and fighting with words have some common ground, like you suggest. 
>>>>>>>> Being an 
>>>>>>>> aggressor in a war and being a bully also share common ground. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are:
>>>>>>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied.
>>>>>>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if you 
>>>>>>>> are bullied.
>>>>>>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid of 
>>>>>>>> your friends who are bullied.  
>>>>>>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of strangers 
>>>>>>>> who are bullied.
>>>>>>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others yourself.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much more 
>>>>>>>> difficult to spot of course:
>>>>>>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in times 
>>>>>>>> of peace.
>>>>>>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes.
>>>>>>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against aggressors.
>>>>>>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and 
>>>>>>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population.
>>>>>>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus is 
>>>>>>>> claimed to have said, then you will not have any. 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, professor, 
>>>>>>>>> playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on a wide range 
>>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>>> issues including race, class, war, and history, and touched the lives 
>>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>>> countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of the human race"
>>>>>>>>>  http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some of 
>>>>>>>>> us), in interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human race. Why?
>>>>>>>>>
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