Never like that Allan. Sometimes the conversation has to be screwed, else brains fall out!
On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 1:14:04 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Okay no soul just the eternal mind. . > Sorry I screwed things up for you > Neil what was this beginning of clarity? > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 2:08 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time > > I'm not suggesting any of us are Scientologists in any direct sense. > Though when we talk of rationality, clarity and other impossible > ideal-types forgetting they are ideals, we share something with such > lunacy. Of course, it isn't long before Allan screws up any chance of > clarity, saving ourselves from ourselves with his up-the-sleeve soul > forever-undefined-curing-all. > > I rather liked the idea that whatever we did was accessible to other > people, whatever 'condition' they were in. > > On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:12:41 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >> >> I suppose that's where the "father, forgive them for they know not what >> they do" advise comes in Neil. Even with people motivated by criminal >> intent, they don't really understand the magnificence of the life they've >> been given and how they squander it. I grew weary of letting the ills of >> humanity upset me log ago and have mostly let go of it, although >> occasionally fall back into dismay over it. That dismay interferes with my >> reverent feelings for life's wonders, so, eventually, I can again see the >> wisdom in letting go. >> >> And even though, when in the throes of a virus, it is hard to remember >> the wonder, I do manage to find it every day. Even in a post that says >> "human society has little in it I would choose," because it allows me a >> kindred spirit. There is more to life than what human society holds and >> although at times it is difficult to see deeper or beyond, once done, it >> also seems so simple to do. >> >> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 3:30:16 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> Time is still a question.. but i do see an interconnection.. and also >>> Molly's friends.. RP sent me an email saying he wants back in. >>> >>> I have friends who were involved with scientology. . They do a lot of >>> brain washing. And bad creating lots of problems .. from what the movie >>> was saying is time is a perspective .. it seems to be a series of markers >>> of the past ~ present . >>> >>> The present moment is elusive as as as soon as you read this it is >>> already past.. as for the soul how does time interconnect with economics? >>> That is your speciality. . I always thought that when you look at from >>> different perspectives (booooo!) it helps in expanding and enlighting the >>> concepts escaping from the lectures. . >>> The effect if time on present day economic practice.. perfect for >>> perspective time snapshots.. >>> >>> lol. Where is the new camp ground? >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 4:06 AM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>> >>> Allan's brief mention of time, before scuttling back into his >>> soul-shell, might have something in it. There is only so much time one can >>> lend to various ventures. I have developed an interest in the more honest >>> creatures of this earth and find it easy to put time in there. I have been >>> led (I hope led) to a view that human society is severely disabled and has >>> little in it I would choose. >>> >>> "Scientology" is both a criminal organisation (an interesting in that we >>> struggle to treat it as such) and a glaring example of wider, crude >>> religious practices everywhere. I fancy what most people have assumed to >>> be rationality over the years is, in fact, something similarly crude and >>> more of medieval time than anything modern. >>> >>> We should upsticks Molly. >>> >>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:13:45 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>> >>>> Scientology is one of those deadly Kool Aid cults with an enormous >>>> amount of money behind the effort. It took a small bit of Hermetic >>>> philosophy, as old as written history, added methods of control and >>>> brainwashing, threw in shunning and voila, you have something worth >>>> grabbing your children and your assets and running at least a thousand >>>> miles to get away from (Katie Holmes. >>>> Having its roots in Hermetic philosophy legitimizes it to its >>>> constituents because these same concepts have been echoed throughout the >>>> ages. >>>> >>>> Not sure where you stand on the concept of soul, Neil. My biggest worry >>>> for this group is that it is wobbling on a failing platform that leaves it >>>> open to wackos and trolls. this makes it hard for a small group dialogue >>>> to >>>> survive. Maybe it is too boring without a bundle of alters of one deeply >>>> disturbed person constantly arguing with themselves. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:07:54 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It's not really surprising time in this group has been so medieval. >>>>> Rationality has been conflated with morality, thinking with spirituality >>>>> (very Descartes) and legitimation with the supernatural. Some of the >>>>> action hasn't been that distanced from Scientology. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:29:21 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Love always creats a special bond between souls.. you an I both know >>>>>> souls are eternal she is doing what she needs. All I can say is for her >>>>>> to >>>>>> follow her soul.. the soul can find the path if given a chance. >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 4:54 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a dear friend whose husband languishes in the hospital right >>>>>> now in his last days on earth. She holds his hand and wonders, as we all >>>>>> do >>>>>> during times like these, about the "time" we are given in this life with >>>>>> those we love. Sometimes, it seems to be cut too short and I have to >>>>>> wonder >>>>>> if this isn't the workings of soul, as we are connected there eternally >>>>>> to >>>>>> those we love most. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 6:32:05 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Love watching the sun rise.. sailing creates strange perspectives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:15 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I stop watching the clock, sunrise and sunset still give a pace >>>>>>> of time to my day. The seasons give a broader pace. We age in time. We >>>>>>> measure change with time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 2:35:15 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Back in my younger days the book that gave the value of cars was >>>>>>>> actually blue. Hence the name.. >>>>>>>> See Tony even I can take leaps forward into reality.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> lol. (",) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 8:25 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sounds really deep Tony - maybe we should leave it buried? Reality >>>>>>>> has taken a leap forward with Allan recognising a book plug as a book >>>>>>>> plug. >>>>>>>> Soon he will be able to tell us a blue book is blue (which it isn't). >>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>> don't know there is a reality. There is a reality hypothesis. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Get real people! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 5:33:19 PM UTC+1, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Time is an abstraction, a non quantifiable human invention used >>>>>>>>> for measurement. Said more simply, it is not the substance but the >>>>>>>>> flask. >>>>>>>>> Outside of human conjecture time does not exist. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 12:25:25 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I did watch the movie. Interesting reminded me of a book >>>>>>>>>> promotion. . And we actually have heard the same logic from RP using >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> Hindu God.. did not agree with that argument either. >>>>>>>>>> In the end there was a promotion for his book. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> He gets into a lot of Einstein concepts on time.. listening to >>>>>>>>>> him and the other program. Time is evasive and a matter of >>>>>>>>>> perspective. A >>>>>>>>>> perspective unique to each person. . The one thing apparently >>>>>>>>>> physics can >>>>>>>>>> not prove is the exsistance if time. . Unlike the conclusions >>>>>>>>>> people these >>>>>>>>>> people want to jump to.. >>>>>>>>>> It would seem to me that all our souls are responsible for is >>>>>>>>>> the perspective known by the unique soul inside the reality of >>>>>>>>>> non-time >>>>>>>>>> ¿known? to exist within the reality of time.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Which gets back to the original question just what the heck is >>>>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:47 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This was in my mailbox (interestingly enough) >>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw <https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 4:03:34 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is time. I always thouhght of it as a >>>>>>>>>>> constant.. only to find it is a veriable .. unlike other veriables.. >>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is ¿Time? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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