I'll be right over. On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:40:04 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Tea preference? . We fresh grind each cup. Espresso which uses the same > amount of grounds but half the water. > > Coffee. Keeps you awake.. lucky you.. me too sometimes.. we use doughe > egberts 10. Almost the strongest. I am not a fan of brown water.. but like > a strong cup of coffee. . Luud and I both like our coffee black so tgere is > no problem. > > > > > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: Molly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time > > My throat and sinuses hurt so much right now tea is a welcome friend. > Otherwise, I prefer coffee, but only in the morning. I like my sleep too > much. > > On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:25:38 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> My coffee machine can be used to make a great tea. Preferance? >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 6:14 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >> >> Mud and Arab coffee probably have more water than you Allan, but I don't >> drink them! >> >> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 4:46:14 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> Well if you like water you already like 72% of me. (",) >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 3:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>> >>> Clarity is a strange business. The language of being clear, resembling >>> being bleached or de-loused in Scientology, dominates much of social >>> research in needing to be pre-suppositionless, not to contaminate the >>> research situation and hundreds of other terms such as 'hermeneutics >>> guarantees truth'. This is all to be done by 'objects' that carry more >>> other organisms around with them than cells with their own DNA. >>> >>> Screws change directions on boats. This may be what saves the boat from >>> ending-up on the rocks. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 1:14:04 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> Okay no soul just the eternal mind. . >>>> Sorry I screwed things up for you >>>> Neil what was this beginning of clarity? >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 2:08 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>> >>>> I'm not suggesting any of us are Scientologists in any direct sense. >>>> Though when we talk of rationality, clarity and other impossible >>>> ideal-types forgetting they are ideals, we share something with such >>>> lunacy. Of course, it isn't long before Allan screws up any chance of >>>> clarity, saving ourselves from ourselves with his up-the-sleeve soul >>>> forever-undefined-curing-all. >>>> >>>> I rather liked the idea that whatever we did was accessible to other >>>> people, whatever 'condition' they were in. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:12:41 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I suppose that's where the "father, forgive them for they know not >>>>> what they do" advise comes in Neil. Even with people motivated by >>>>> criminal >>>>> intent, they don't really understand the magnificence of the life they've >>>>> been given and how they squander it. I grew weary of letting the ills of >>>>> humanity upset me log ago and have mostly let go of it, although >>>>> occasionally fall back into dismay over it. That dismay interferes with >>>>> my >>>>> reverent feelings for life's wonders, so, eventually, I can again see the >>>>> wisdom in letting go. >>>>> >>>>> And even though, when in the throes of a virus, it is hard to remember >>>>> the wonder, I do manage to find it every day. Even in a post that says >>>>> "human society has little in it I would choose," because it allows me a >>>>> kindred spirit. There is more to life than what human society holds and >>>>> although at times it is difficult to see deeper or beyond, once done, it >>>>> also seems so simple to do. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 3:30:16 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Time is still a question.. but i do see an interconnection.. and >>>>>> also Molly's friends.. RP sent me an email saying he wants back in. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have friends who were involved with scientology. . They do a lot >>>>>> of brain washing. And bad creating lots of problems .. from what the >>>>>> movie >>>>>> was saying is time is a perspective .. it seems to be a series of >>>>>> markers >>>>>> of the past ~ present . >>>>>> >>>>>> The present moment is elusive as as as soon as you read this it is >>>>>> already past.. as for the soul how does time interconnect with >>>>>> economics? >>>>>> That is your speciality. . I always thought that when you look at from >>>>>> different perspectives (booooo!) it helps in expanding and enlighting >>>>>> the >>>>>> concepts escaping from the lectures. . >>>>>> The effect if time on present day economic practice.. perfect for >>>>>> perspective time snapshots.. >>>>>> >>>>>> lol. Where is the new camp ground? >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 4:06 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>> >>>>>> Allan's brief mention of time, before scuttling back into his >>>>>> soul-shell, might have something in it. There is only so much time one >>>>>> can >>>>>> lend to various ventures. I have developed an interest in the more >>>>>> honest >>>>>> creatures of this earth and find it easy to put time in there. I have >>>>>> been >>>>>> led (I hope led) to a view that human society is severely disabled and >>>>>> has >>>>>> little in it I would choose. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scientology" is both a criminal organisation (an interesting in that >>>>>> we struggle to treat it as such) and a glaring example of wider, crude >>>>>> religious practices everywhere. I fancy what most people have assumed >>>>>> to >>>>>> be rationality over the years is, in fact, something similarly crude and >>>>>> more of medieval time than anything modern. >>>>>> >>>>>> We should upsticks Molly. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:13:45 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Scientology is one of those deadly Kool Aid cults with an enormous >>>>>>> amount of money behind the effort. It took a small bit of Hermetic >>>>>>> philosophy, as old as written history, added methods of control and >>>>>>> brainwashing, threw in shunning and voila, you have something worth >>>>>>> grabbing your children and your assets and running at least a thousand >>>>>>> miles to get away from (Katie Holmes. >>>>>>> Having its roots in Hermetic philosophy legitimizes it to its >>>>>>> constituents because these same concepts have been echoed throughout >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> ages. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not sure where you stand on the concept of soul, Neil. My biggest >>>>>>> worry for this group is that it is wobbling on a failing platform that >>>>>>> leaves it open to wackos and trolls. this makes it hard for a small >>>>>>> group >>>>>>> dialogue to survive. Maybe it is too boring without a bundle of alters >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> one deeply disturbed person constantly arguing with themselves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:07:54 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's not really surprising time in this group has been so medieval. >>>>>>>> Rationality has been conflated with morality, thinking with >>>>>>>> spirituality >>>>>>>> (very Descartes) and legitimation with the supernatural. Some of the >>>>>>>> action hasn't been that distanced from Scientology. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:29:21 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Love always creats a special bond between souls.. you an I both >>>>>>>>> know souls are eternal she is doing what she needs. All I can say is >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> her to follow her soul.. the soul can find the path if given a >>>>>>>>> chance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 4:54 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a dear friend whose husband languishes in the hospital >>>>>>>>> right now in his last days on earth. She holds his hand and wonders, >>>>>>>>> as we >>>>>>>>> all do during times like these, about the "time" we are given in this >>>>>>>>> life >>>>>>>>> with those we love. Sometimes, it seems to be cut too short and I >>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>> wonder if this isn't the workings of soul, as we are connected there >>>>>>>>> eternally to those we love most. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 6:32:05 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Love watching the sun rise.. sailing creates strange perspectives. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:15 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When I stop watching the clock, sunrise and sunset still give a >>>>>>>>>> pace of time to my day. The seasons give a broader pace. We age in >>>>>>>>>> time. We >>>>>>>>>> measure change with time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 2:35:15 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Back in my younger days the book that gave the value of cars was >>>>>>>>>>> actually blue. Hence the name.. >>>>>>>>>>> See Tony even I can take leaps forward into reality.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> lol. (",) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 8:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sounds really deep Tony - maybe we should leave it buried? >>>>>>>>>>> Reality has taken a leap forward with Allan recognising a book >>>>>>>>>>> plug as a >>>>>>>>>>> book plug. Soon he will be able to tell us a blue book is blue >>>>>>>>>>> (which it >>>>>>>>>>> isn't). We don't know there is a reality. There is a reality >>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Get real people! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 5:33:19 PM UTC+1, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Time is an abstraction, a non quantifiable human invention used >>>>>>>>>>>> for measurement. Said more simply, it is not the substance but >>>>>>>>>>>> the flask. >>>>>>>>>>>> Outside of human conjecture time does not exist. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 12:25:25 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did watch the movie. Interesting reminded me of a book >>>>>>>>>>>>> promotion. . And we actually have heard the same logic from RP >>>>>>>>>>>>> using a >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hindu God.. did not agree with that argument either. >>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end there was a promotion for his book. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He gets into a lot of Einstein concepts on time.. listening >>>>>>>>>>>>> to him and the other program. Time is evasive and a matter of >>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective. >>>>>>>>>>>>> A perspective unique to each person. . The one thing apparently >>>>>>>>>>>>> physics >>>>>>>>>>>>> can not prove is the exsistance if time. . Unlike the >>>>>>>>>>>>> conclusions people >>>>>>>>>>>>> these people want to jump to.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It would seem to me that all our souls are responsible for >>>>>>>>>>>>> is the perspective known by the unique soul inside the reality of >>>>>>>>>>>>> non-time >>>>>>>>>>>>> ¿known? to exist within the reality of time.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Which gets back to the original question just what the heck >>>>>>>>>>>>> is time? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:47 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This was in my mailbox (interestingly enough) >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw <https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 4:03:34 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is time. I always thouhght of it as a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> constant.. only to find it is a veriable .. unlike other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> veriables.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is ¿Time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >
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