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-----Original Message----- From: archytas <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time Mud and Arab coffee probably have more water than you Allan, but I don't drink them! On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 4:46:14 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Well if you like water you already like 72% of me. (",) > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 3:04 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time > > Clarity is a strange business. The language of being clear, resembling > being bleached or de-loused in Scientology, dominates much of social > research in needing to be pre-suppositionless, not to contaminate the > research situation and hundreds of other terms such as 'hermeneutics > guarantees truth'. This is all to be done by 'objects' that carry more > other organisms around with them than cells with their own DNA. > > Screws change directions on boats. This may be what saves the boat from > ending-up on the rocks. > > > > On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 1:14:04 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Okay no soul just the eternal mind. . >> Sorry I screwed things up for you >> Neil what was this beginning of clarity? >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 2:08 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >> >> I'm not suggesting any of us are Scientologists in any direct sense. >> Though when we talk of rationality, clarity and other impossible >> ideal-types forgetting they are ideals, we share something with such >> lunacy. Of course, it isn't long before Allan screws up any chance of >> clarity, saving ourselves from ourselves with his up-the-sleeve soul >> forever-undefined-curing-all. >> >> I rather liked the idea that whatever we did was accessible to other >> people, whatever 'condition' they were in. >> >> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:12:41 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>> >>> I suppose that's where the "father, forgive them for they know not what >>> they do" advise comes in Neil. Even with people motivated by criminal >>> intent, they don't really understand the magnificence of the life they've >>> been given and how they squander it. I grew weary of letting the ills of >>> humanity upset me log ago and have mostly let go of it, although >>> occasionally fall back into dismay over it. That dismay interferes with my >>> reverent feelings for life's wonders, so, eventually, I can again see the >>> wisdom in letting go. >>> >>> And even though, when in the throes of a virus, it is hard to remember >>> the wonder, I do manage to find it every day. Even in a post that says >>> "human society has little in it I would choose," because it allows me a >>> kindred spirit. There is more to life than what human society holds and >>> although at times it is difficult to see deeper or beyond, once done, it >>> also seems so simple to do. >>> >>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 3:30:16 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> Time is still a question.. but i do see an interconnection.. and also >>>> Molly's friends.. RP sent me an email saying he wants back in. >>>> >>>> I have friends who were involved with scientology. . They do a lot of >>>> brain washing. And bad creating lots of problems .. from what the movie >>>> was saying is time is a perspective .. it seems to be a series of markers >>>> of the past ~ present . >>>> >>>> The present moment is elusive as as as soon as you read this it is >>>> already past.. as for the soul how does time interconnect with economics? >>>> That is your speciality. . I always thought that when you look at from >>>> different perspectives (booooo!) it helps in expanding and enlighting the >>>> concepts escaping from the lectures. . >>>> The effect if time on present day economic practice.. perfect for >>>> perspective time snapshots.. >>>> >>>> lol. Where is the new camp ground? >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 4:06 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>> >>>> Allan's brief mention of time, before scuttling back into his >>>> soul-shell, might have something in it. There is only so much time one >>>> can >>>> lend to various ventures. I have developed an interest in the more honest >>>> creatures of this earth and find it easy to put time in there. I have >>>> been >>>> led (I hope led) to a view that human society is severely disabled and has >>>> little in it I would choose. >>>> >>>> "Scientology" is both a criminal organisation (an interesting in that >>>> we struggle to treat it as such) and a glaring example of wider, crude >>>> religious practices everywhere. I fancy what most people have assumed to >>>> be rationality over the years is, in fact, something similarly crude and >>>> more of medieval time than anything modern. >>>> >>>> We should upsticks Molly. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:13:45 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Scientology is one of those deadly Kool Aid cults with an enormous >>>>> amount of money behind the effort. It took a small bit of Hermetic >>>>> philosophy, as old as written history, added methods of control and >>>>> brainwashing, threw in shunning and voila, you have something worth >>>>> grabbing your children and your assets and running at least a thousand >>>>> miles to get away from (Katie Holmes. >>>>> Having its roots in Hermetic philosophy legitimizes it to its >>>>> constituents because these same concepts have been echoed throughout the >>>>> ages. >>>>> >>>>> Not sure where you stand on the concept of soul, Neil. My biggest >>>>> worry for this group is that it is wobbling on a failing platform that >>>>> leaves it open to wackos and trolls. this makes it hard for a small group >>>>> dialogue to survive. Maybe it is too boring without a bundle of alters of >>>>> one deeply disturbed person constantly arguing with themselves. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:07:54 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It's not really surprising time in this group has been so medieval. >>>>>> Rationality has been conflated with morality, thinking with >>>>>> spirituality >>>>>> (very Descartes) and legitimation with the supernatural. Some of the >>>>>> action hasn't been that distanced from Scientology. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 4:29:21 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Love always creats a special bond between souls.. you an I both know >>>>>>> souls are eternal she is doing what she needs. All I can say is for her >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> follow her soul.. the soul can find the path if given a chance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 4:54 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a dear friend whose husband languishes in the hospital right >>>>>>> now in his last days on earth. She holds his hand and wonders, as we >>>>>>> all do >>>>>>> during times like these, about the "time" we are given in this life >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> those we love. Sometimes, it seems to be cut too short and I have to >>>>>>> wonder >>>>>>> if this isn't the workings of soul, as we are connected there eternally >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> those we love most. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 6:32:05 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Love watching the sun rise.. sailing creates strange perspectives. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:15 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I stop watching the clock, sunrise and sunset still give a >>>>>>>> pace of time to my day. The seasons give a broader pace. We age in >>>>>>>> time. We >>>>>>>> measure change with time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 2:35:15 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Back in my younger days the book that gave the value of cars was >>>>>>>>> actually blue. Hence the name.. >>>>>>>>> See Tony even I can take leaps forward into reality.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> lol. (",) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 8:25 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sounds really deep Tony - maybe we should leave it buried? >>>>>>>>> Reality has taken a leap forward with Allan recognising a book plug >>>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>>> book plug. Soon he will be able to tell us a blue book is blue >>>>>>>>> (which it >>>>>>>>> isn't). We don't know there is a reality. There is a reality >>>>>>>>> hypothesis. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Get real people! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 5:33:19 PM UTC+1, facilitator wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Time is an abstraction, a non quantifiable human invention used >>>>>>>>>> for measurement. Said more simply, it is not the substance but the >>>>>>>>>> flask. >>>>>>>>>> Outside of human conjecture time does not exist. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 12:25:25 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I did watch the movie. Interesting reminded me of a book >>>>>>>>>>> promotion. . And we actually have heard the same logic from RP >>>>>>>>>>> using a >>>>>>>>>>> Hindu God.. did not agree with that argument either. >>>>>>>>>>> In the end there was a promotion for his book. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He gets into a lot of Einstein concepts on time.. listening to >>>>>>>>>>> him and the other program. Time is evasive and a matter of >>>>>>>>>>> perspective. A >>>>>>>>>>> perspective unique to each person. . The one thing apparently >>>>>>>>>>> physics can >>>>>>>>>>> not prove is the exsistance if time. . Unlike the conclusions >>>>>>>>>>> people these >>>>>>>>>>> people want to jump to.. >>>>>>>>>>> It would seem to me that all our souls are responsible for is >>>>>>>>>>> the perspective known by the unique soul inside the reality of >>>>>>>>>>> non-time >>>>>>>>>>> ¿known? to exist within the reality of time.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Which gets back to the original question just what the heck is >>>>>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:47 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Time >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This was in my mailbox (interestingly enough) >>>>>>>>>>> https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw <https://youtu.be/H1WfFkp4puw> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 4:03:34 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is time. I always thouhght of it as a >>>>>>>>>>>> constant.. only to find it is a veriable .. unlike other >>>>>>>>>>>> veriables.. >>>>>>>>>>>> Just what the heck is ¿Time? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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